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Privacy minded instant messaging quest. (lemmy.ml)

submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by Gordon_F@lemmy.ml to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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Hi,

I'm looking for an instant messaging ( IM ) ~~apps~~ software/protocol that run on Android and computer

and meet the following requirements :

Open source !
E2EE
Messages are send in direct ! (not passing by a server)
handle group
Truly private ! ( That's the tricky part )

The closest that I've found is Briar

+can work without internet ! (bluetooth, local wifi, files !)
+ use TOR
- Mutual party have to exchange key (or your can introduce someone)
- sending media suck for now, poor image quality
- no call or voice messaging

I've been looking for alternatives:

~~Session~~
- Sadly it keep ALL the conversation into server !!! so it's a no go.
speek
- I didn't try it yet, any feedback ?
simplex
- it look very promising ! (didn't tried it yet)
- + seem to handle multiple profile in one !
- + do not require that both party send an invitation !
  - and have also a optional long term address
- ~~! I didn't found (yet) if the messages are send in direct or pass by a server..~~
  It's not P2P all the messages pass by servers.. too bad.

All post about alternatives or experience with the one that I cited are welcome.

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[–] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Interesting that you mentioned briar and Bluetooth. What is the issue with Bluetooth?

[–] KDE@monyet.cc 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

just search seytonic bluetooth on yt , you can find it preety easily ngl

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Okay, just on general principles telling me to watch an influencer on YouTube who summarizes an article isn't a great way to have a discussion.

But whatever, I think this is the article you're referring to:

https://www.theregister.com/2023/12/06/bluetooth_bug_apple_linux/

Bluetooth keyboard, keystroke injections.

That's a generalized Bluetooth issue, not a briar issue. I was just curious if there was a specific briar implementation problem, but if this is the article you're referring to then briar is fine and hasn't had a issue.

[–] KDE@monyet.cc 2 points 11 months ago

i have an exam tomorrow and as such i wasnt able to show you all the sources

and no currently htrere is no briar specific problem in my radar "yet"