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You understand the F150 is the best selling vehicle in the US right? It's not a fear cry from this monstrosity.
If the rednecks would spend their money on trucks instead of meth these would be all over the place.
And you realize the F150 is hugely dissimilar to something like the 650. right? The only commonality is that they're both trucks and they're both made by Ford.
The current gen F150's have their own stupid design aspects, as well, and you'd never catch me buying one. But they're not comparable. The F650 is 20.5 inches wider than the F150 and in its shortest factory bed configuration is 19.3 inches longer than the longest factory bed and cab combination of the F150.
They. Are. Not. The. Same. Thing.
Like comparing a desktop computer to a commercial web server
Do you even realise that you're defending owning an F150? That's not a normal car to own, not even close. F150 is closer to F650 than it is to Fiat 500.
It's a very reasonably normal vehicle to own if you do a lot of towing, construction, etc. Heavy vehicles exist for a reason. No it's not for commuting or shopping trips, but there are many other reasons to own a vehicle.
People outside of US do that all without F150 and other American cancer. You don't need a truck for anything.
Do you not realize a truck is a van without a top? No difference. Trucks are extremely useful in the US. Yes you can do those things without a truck, but it's easier with a truck. Honestly with your "American Cancer" statement, you're sounding pretty xenophobic and I don't appreciate it.
You got me...it's not even TWO FEET bigger...clearly that's a completely different vehicle.
That's hilarious...I honestly thought I was kind of bullshitting about the dimensions...Phew...
Go out to your car (or your neighbor's car if you're one of those types) with a tape measure and some masking tape, and mask off 20.5" from the side of his vehicle to get a feel for how much bigger that is. Do the whole thing, all the way around. Make a whole box the size of the footprint of an F650. Tell me if it will even still fit in its parking space anymore.
And then kindly shut the fuck up, because you are obviously either a little kid with no perspective or experience with the world, or you have the mentality of one.
Damn...I'm really sorry about your penis. I'd say it gets better, but well...Keep buying the big trucks I guess.
Seriously though...go get a 2 seater anything and drive about 100 miles. Tell me which giant ass SUV or Truck really stood out to you? They all just kind of blur together in a McDonald's super sized orgy of excess. Does it really matter if it's a jacked up F250 or a regular sized F650...they're embarrassing.
Man you're just trying to be an asshole for the sake of being an asshole. Have you ever tried actually being reasonable?
Not American, not into big trucks but thought I'd Google a 150 beside a 650 to get an idea of what they look like, they do indeed seem to be on a completely different scale and I'd tend to agree the 650 appears to be a commercial vehicle.
Looking up current trucks, the F150 varies from 209-228" long and it's 96" wide. That means there's a 21% increase in width and a bit less than 10% in length.
If that isn't significant to you, I will happily accept 20% of your paycheck at your convenience.
The government takes 20% of my paycheck and I don't notice...so um...go ask them I guess.
I'm really sorry you're 4 feet tall and feel envious of us 6-footers, but it is a big difference
The F150 has always been the bestselling truck in America, through all its iterations, which includes when it was about 40% smaller.
But was it always the best seller vehicle? (This is not a gotcha, I don't know).
Iirc it was for like 40 years in a row and it's always close to the top
Possibly. I took license with my response for sure as I don't follow it closely or own one at all, but it's done fairly well.
Which reinforces OPs pic. Big trucks are an obsession with Americans.
It's a valid stereotype.
He could have used a more accurate picture of a modern F150, and made the point well without inspiring folks to think "oh the Internet has made this person think Americans are all out driving F650s and I can put aside their ill informed point".
An F150 is still ridiculous. If he were concerned that people were desensitized to how ridiculous it is, could have included a comparison picture from 30 years ago to show what trucks used to look like, or a reasonably sized sedan.
If you want to sway hearts and minds, avoid claiming an example as representative when the audience is likely to recognize that example as something they have never actually seen casually on the road.
You have to go get a specialized company to make it look this way it does not come like this. Is the f150 ridiculous yes. But this truck is a far cry from an f150. It's like saying an f150 is equal to a flat bed tow truck or an international bobtail. F150 cost ~37,000 vs f650 cost ~70,000 and that comes with only the cab,nothing on the back where the bed would go.
These 2 trucks are not comparable because they are for 2 different markets.