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[–] misk@sopuli.xyz -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The whole argument is that Meta will do whatever they want with their implementation of Activity Pub and lacks any further details. Blast radius of what? How does that affect existing Mastodon instances? Do they lose anything compared to what they have now?

Threads doesn't need Mastodon users because it has orders of magnitude more already. Mastodon has unique competitive advantage, for example no ads, that could compel Threads users to switch with little friction. It might turn out that Threads will offer things Mastodon won't on principle (follower and notification management for huge accounts) which might actually make whole ecosystem more healthy and diverse.

Really, it's best to see what's going to happen. I'm optimistic because I think open alternatives are generally better and will win long term.

[–] sudneo@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't know what is going to happen, and as I said, I don't even care that much to be honest.

Blast radius of what? How does that affect existing Mastodon instances?

It does if this happens gradually, when instances bleed users to Threads because it has "more features"/works better/etc.

I’m optimistic because I think open alternatives are generally better and will win long term.

Good for you, I am not sure what this optimism is grounded on, but I lost it completely. I think the battle is already lost, and open solution can -at best- represent a niche corner of the internet. People are used to things that are addictive and create expectations that are unrealistic for services run with budget at 4 digits top. There is no going back, in my opinion. Either way, this is very much besides the point of my argument, which was that email is exactly an example of how big companies can take over "open" protocols with them being left "open" but effectively having 99% of users on 2/3 providers, and a very high entry barrier which renders the "open" nature of the protocol just a formality.

[–] misk@sopuli.xyz 2 points 9 months ago

I'm getting an impression you're not using Mastodon. Vast majority of Mastodon users are there for a very specific reason, to decouple from corporate social networks, and won't switch, period.

My optimism is grounded on having reasons to believe Meta is implementing Activity Pub so that EU regulators will allow them to operate here depending on whether Meta plays nice.