October 7 was ethnic cleansing, this isn't. Thousands of children died because of the October 7 attack. They would all still be alive if Hamas hadn't staged the worst pogrom against Jews since the Holocaust.

[–] ondoyant@beehaw.org 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

they didn't die "because of the October 7 attack". they died because the IDF has been indiscriminately bombing civilians after the attack. nothing about the actions of Israel are an inevitable consequence of October 7. they are the deliberate actions of a far-right government. i am not ill informed, i know the facts of the situation, i have family in israel, i am a jew. your failure to recognize forced migration and mass killing of palestinian civilians as fundamentally the same as what the jewish people were subjected to is appalling. never again for anyone.

[–] DdCno1@beehaw.org -5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

If the IDF was bombing indiscriminately, then why are they using only expensive guided ammunition in dense urban areas? Wouldn't it be far cheaper to just lob unguided bombs randomly instead of announcing where they strike through telephone calls, messages, flyers, hacked TV stations and, most recently, an online service? How does your claim of indiscriminate bombing mesh with this extensive warning system they developed?

i have family in israel, i am a jew

Doesn't stop you from being uninformed. You are unintentionally spreading the propaganda of antisemites by repeating claims about indiscriminate bombing.

[–] Count042@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Apparently it doesn't stop you from being misinformed either.

The IDF haven't been doing any of that for this part of the war they've been waging for 17 years. It's laughable that you think they have. Let's go down the list of how wrong you are:

Telephone calls: there's no power.

Messages: there's no power.

Leaflets: they are doing this, but they're also bombing the safe zones they tell people to go. There's also no food, water, or shelter in the supposed safe zones.

TV: there's no power.

Online services (HAH): there's no power.

People are fucking worried about cholera cause there is no clean water, and the IDF is pumping salt water into the aquifers to destroy future clean water, too.

Oh, also, if you're a male, the IDF will take you from the safe zones, strip you naked, and use you as a human shield, regardless of what you did for an occupation and call you hamas.

The only antisemitic asshole here is the person trying to link all Jewish people to the psycho nation trying to commit genocide at worst, and ethnic cleansing at best.

[–] ondoyant@beehaw.org 4 points 11 months ago

If the IDF was bombing indiscriminately, then why are they using only expensive guided ammunition in dense urban areas? Wouldn’t it be far cheaper to just lob unguided bombs randomly instead of announcing where they strike through telephone calls, messages, flyers, hacked TV stations and, most recently, an online service? How does your claim of indiscriminate bombing mesh with this extensive warning system they developed?

if they aren't bombing indiscriminately, the death toll is even more condemnable. if they are precise in their bombing, they have used that precision to butcher thousands of innocent people. in any case, saying "watch out people who have no place to go, we're about to bomb the hospital you're in!" is not the humanitarian victory you seem to think it is.

[–] Count042@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago

You literally have the highest members of the Israel government planning to drive the people of Gaza into the Sinai desert, or force other nations to take them in.

You apparently have no idea what the words 'Ethnic cleansing' mean.

Also, there is no way you can stretch those words into anything that Oct 7th could reasonably be described as.