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[–] 0110010001100010@lemmy.world 161 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Hmmm...any guesses if he actually will? Cause I bet there is zero chance that he does.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 67 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I can't imagine he will, nor will any of the justices appointed by Trump.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 106 points 11 months ago (1 children)

he didn't recuse himself when his wife was on the docket... so why would he recuse himself from trump?

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 34 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Can we at least update the description of Supreme Court Justice to remove impartiality and instead say something to the effect of 'forces their will on people less fortunate?'

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Also, call them judges. To call them justices perverts the entire concept.

[–] Jeff@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I like the term ‘lawyer-deciders’ because what do you call a bus full of lawyers at the bottom of a lake?

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

A good start?

That's not really fair, though. A lot of lawyers are fighting the good fight, such as environmental lawyers, those of the Southern Poverty Law Center, the ACLU and various other organizations who provide pro bono representation to those who couldn't afford a good lawyer otherwise.

[–] Jeff@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Fair sir. But these ones aren’t any different from others that also are disliked. They are just as corrupt and with more power so they’re even bigger dirt bags.

May they be used as examples of scum for all time immortal.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's like saying that all politicians are identical 🙄

[–] Jeff@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago

Ah well. The bad apples use nuance to hide amongst the good ones which has been very effective. If they can’t self regulate then something must be done …. Apathy hasn’t really panned out 🧐

[–] hydrashok@sh.itjust.works 43 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well he’s a giant piece of shit human, so I’m going to guess no.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I don't see any chance the supreme court could rule that he would be immune to charges for attempting to steal an election. If they were to rule he had absolute immunity it would be giving every president forward who wants to stay in office the right to just cancel the elections.

That said, Clarence won't want his name listed as voting against protecting little hands in this, so him stepping aside gives him the ability to not vote against, and look like he did the right thing.

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 14 points 11 months ago

Quite clearly the Supreme Court doesn't care about national stability. So who can say what will happen. They've overturned decades of jurisprudence, so speculation is fun but we really have no idea.

[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They already showed how it's done in Bush v Gore: just declare the case can't be used as precedent.

[–] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago

The Supreme Court is operating under Calvinball rules.

[–] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That is what they want, though. They want a dictator.

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They want a republican dictator. A democrat currently holds the office. If they rule that Trump can’t be held liable, there’s nothing stopping Biden from doing the same successfully. And that should terrify them.

[–] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

They have no intention of letting Democrats continue to be president, though.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I'm gonna put the odds at roughly 1000:1 that he does.

Actually, there are betting sites for this that would be, supposedly, more accurate than I am at creating those odds. What are the odds on the betting sites?

Edit: I'm not finding the odds.....

Edit 2: Apparently there are 5:1 odds on if Trump takes a plea bargain. I would have set those a bit higher since he is willing to settle cases, but I doubt he's willing to accept jail time of any sort.

[–] Makeitstop@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

I can't see trump taking a plea deal while he's still running for president. He's going to try to delay as long as he can, get elected, and then use his position as president to weasel out of any charges, even if it means pardoning himself. And since he's that number 1 target, the one that they want bad enough to give lenient plea deals to others in exchange for testimony, I find it hard to believe that he'd be offered a plea that doesn't send him to prison. So why admit to being guilty when he can keep telling his followers that it's a witch hunt and generate more support?