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[–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Anyone who actually wants power should not be trusted, with it, or in general

[–] tygerprints@kbin.social -1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I agree - humans cannot be trusted no matter who they are.

[–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Do you believe that humans intrinsically lust for power as an essentialist point?

EDIT: for a dropped 'm'

[–] tygerprints@kbin.social 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think all humans lust for power over others, to make them believe as they do, or worship as they do or some other way conform to their own way of behaving and thinking. Maybe it's a tribal thing, left over from when we were on the Savannah in "cave man" days, and needed to feel in control of our group (or something). I do believe some desire for power is an intrinsic part of human existence.

[–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

See, I think that's where we disagree-- because I don't see it as an intrinsic codified that far back. If anything, I think that's just part and parcel of being socialized under the dictatorship of capital; where we're literally raised to prioritize competition against our peers, and more importantly, winning that competition. I only see 'power' as the means to the end of accomplishing the objectives we were socialized to chase from birth.

tl;dr change the society, change the socialization, eradicate the common, but not all-encompassing desire for power over another.

[–] tygerprints@kbin.social 0 points 11 months ago

You have a more practical and perhaps more economic based view of the situation, which I don't disagree with at all. It's just that I'm a much more nihilistic person in my beliefs, I personally (and this is ONLY an opinion) believe that all humans are intrinsically horrible and evil to the core. I've never seen any iota of goodness in anyone. So I cannot simply see it as a matter of how we're nurtured by our society but as a fundamental part of the disease of human psychosis.

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You must live in a sad world. I feel sorry for you.

[–] tygerprints@kbin.social -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I live in a world of utmost happiness, the likes of which you people cannot even imagine. I simply see the truth for what it is. Feel sorry all you want, but use that energy to improve your own circumstances. Mine are as perfect as could ever be possible.

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Actually you're just a filthy degenerate father fucking piece of sick filth.

Yeah such a world of utmost happiness and truth. Only people in a perfect world say things like that.

[–] USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website 1 points 11 months ago

Did you go browsing through someone’s post history elsewhere on Lemmy to try and dunk, then report them when they argued with you? Absolutely pathetic. Have threes days off to touch grass.

[–] tygerprints@kbin.social 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

I love that I make you mad and get under your skin, it keeps my practice sharp and my needles at the ready. You are easily manipulated.

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Truly a person in a world of utmost happiness

[–] tygerprints@kbin.social 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

At least I'm not a scumbag like you are, and that alone makes me happier than you could ever hope to be. And now you are responding in the way that I like to see - I have brought out your worst side for all to see.

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

So you just like spitting poison at people for no reason, huh? I hope you can get the help you obviously need. Life is not as bad as you think it is.

This community enjoys being positive. You should look somewhere else to spew venom around.

[–] USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Clown behaviour. Have a week off, champ.