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[–] EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website 115 points 11 months ago (7 children)

On the one hand, I like this, but on the other hand it’s bad if judges are handing out other people’s every day life as a punishment

[–] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml 108 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is meant to be rehabilitation by teaching her empathy. Jail won’t change her but this might.

[–] asteriskeverything@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Ultimately jail is meant to be rehabilitation, I see how the punishment fits much better.

But then I'm bias cuz I'm not a fan of the criminal justice system and prison industrial complex in general.

[–] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml 32 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Jail is punishment only. They are cages to make people disappear while middle class white people pray to NIMBY Jesus.

[–] asteriskeverything@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, that's the dark reality. I love NIMBY Jesus, thank you I'm adding it to my vocabulary

[–] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 months ago

lol thanks, made it up the other day!

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

His full name is actually “supply-side NIMBY capitalist Jesus”, just so you know

[–] TheGalacticVoid@lemm.ee 20 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Jails in the US are for punishment at best and torture at worst.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 12 points 11 months ago

Jails in the US are for profit.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee -4 points 11 months ago

Agree and they're a cakewalk compared to Singapore.

Not suggesting this is ok, but that Singapore sucks lol

[–] CodingCarpenter@lemm.ee 97 points 11 months ago

Don't think of it that way. You're not saying oh this is terrible so now you have to do this. You're saying this is a demanding job and you ought to have respect for the people who do it. Give them a little insight into the hardships of the people they're giving shit

[–] JCreazy@midwest.social 46 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Perhaps we don't call it a punishment. We can call it rehabilitation.

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world -5 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Sounds like indentured servitude to me.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 11 months ago

True, but our society is generally okay with this when people break the law.

[–] schmidtster@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It’s called community service and if the person would rather pay a fine or go to jail they are normally allowed to pick those options.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

That's where the "except as a punishment for crime" part of the 13th Amendment kicks in.

[–] magnetosphere@kbin.social 27 points 11 months ago

Some people’s everyday lives are punishment. That’s the world we’ve built.

On top of that, there are those who can’t/won’t learn empathy. The only way they can understand is by actually living through it themselves. I think sentences like this should be commonplace for anyone who commits a crime against a service worker.

[–] xkforce@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

If you've ever worked in a low paying customer service job for a prolonged amount of time, you know that IT IS a punishment.

[–] EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website 3 points 11 months ago

I worked retail for 6 years. I know.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I sentence you to be surewhynotlem for a week. A punishment worse than death.

[–] EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website 3 points 11 months ago

I object. Isn't there a rule about no cruel and unusual punishments?

[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

but then they rock as you and turn everything around in ways you never could.

[–] Lyrac@programming.dev 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

This was my first thought as well. But on the other hand, I thinks it's great if we can set aside our desire for punishment/retribution and just increase empathy. (Walk a mile in their shoes)

Maybe on their last day of service, the person they assaulted gets to throw a burrito bowl in their face. Then we get the best of both worlds.