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[–] snacks 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

no. fuck Sunak, Boris, Rees Mogg, Farage and all those wankers whove ruined this country, and every single failure of the last few years hasn’t happened, like nothing matters to you. By turning away from Labour over this, by saying you want more of this seemingly endless, miserable shit - youre the arsehole. *not you specifically i hope you take this the right way.

those Labour MPs, those hard working left and centre left of which Starmer is a part, they don’t deserve to be treated so poorly by some knee jerk tabloid analysis designed to provoke the exact reaction you are giving. This is exactly what needs to be terminated, this endless tabloid, reductive bollocks which is the same passionate but misdirected energy which gives birth to people like Robert Jenrick or Braverman, who put all their energy in because they feel passion for their job - but in aid of ruining people lives..

they say jump you say how high

rise above

[–] sabreW4K3@lemmy.tf -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I see what you're going for, but it's like you didn't read what I said and tried to take a perceived sentiment and run with it.

First things first, there's not a single yardstick by which we can ever call Maggie Thatcher left or even centrist and so the fact that Starmer is praising her, in whatever context or abstraction, puts him firmly on the right.

Are we saying he's far right like Farage? No! Like Rees Mog? Not far off but no!

What I alluded to was that chasing votes without any integrity isn't a good thing and that I hoped it would backfire because those constituents of Labour seats who have had to endure the fuckeries we've been through deserve better than more of the same. We deserve new ideas, new approaches and a government that doesn't try and hold up Margaret fucking Thatcher as anything other than a fucking evil cow that's better off dead!

And I would argue that people like you that try and Red Wash Starmer and his actions are actually at the root of the problem.

[–] snacks 1 points 11 months ago

on the contrary, i read exactly what you said. I dont mean in a semantic way, I mean I read it and understood it.

The problem youve got is, Starmer is one person and the closest to an ‘establishment’ man the Labour Party has ever had. Hes a lawyer and knighted by the Queen ffs. But hes also part of a corrective streak lasting for ten years since, myself included with all my heart, when Corbyn won the right to challenge for the leadership and royally fucked it all up. That is what happened, and to me, it proved that arseholes like Boris will sneak in if we dont put sensible people up. People who can read, people who are dedicated to public service as a vocation not a hustle like these crooks. They promote people like Lammy and Rayner, people like Cooper are balanced out with real left wing heroes to get where they have without going through Eton or be related to a slave owning family dynasty or whatever.

Im sorry but the real left wing has to do better than give up after a few blows from a dying tabloid culture. The left isnt just the leader, its the entire working class and probably a large chunk of the middle as well, and writing it all off as not ‘left wing’ enough is a lie.