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Im an artist trying to make a living with my art. Its not like a normal job where youre profitable from the beginning. Shit is competitive, people dont want to spend money on stuff they can get for free, unless its really good. A thousand free views doesnt amount to a dime for anyone. I can and do outright sell some art, but its taken like hundreds of thousands of free views before i was good enough where anyone would give me money for it. You could also compare like patreon subscribers to twitter followers, it is a huge ratio, way more than 1000:1. You can sell your art, you can go a subscriber model, you can be hired for your art, there are plenty of avenues to profit from your art, but the bottom line is people have to willingly pay money for it.
Cool story bro, it has nothing to do with spotify ripping off artists.
Good for you that youre okay with being ripped off by spotify? I guess? But we arent talking about what immoral actions you are willing to ignore to further your potential career.
People are willingly paying spotify either monthly or via ads to listen to these artists. They have paid for the art. Spotify doesnt want to give the earned cut. Your willingness to give up your fair share in the hopes of future recognition is a personal decision, but that doesnt make it right. It just means you, personally, arent willing to fight off the boot on your chest.
Which is the mentality spotify is counting on to get away with ripping off you and everyone else who cant afford lawyers.
so take your music off of spotify, no one is making you give them your music.
Damn, dude, you are insanely self obsessed, huh?
I dont have any content on spotify, but thats neither relevant nor the point.
This isnt immoral or wrong because it is negative for me, directly and specifically. Its not okay to rip off artists until Im the one ripped off. Its wrong to do to anyone.
Did they stop teaching that in schools, or something? What brain rot is this? Do you stand by and twiddle thumbs when you see someones purse get nabbed? Do you cheer, cause the theif got a windfall?
Aint shit been stolen. it's willingly given. Spotify doesnt have to buy their music, they dont have to let spotify use their music. They paid for it this year, they're letting artists know ahead of time, hey we're not paying that price next year. And there is zero obligation for the artists to continue letting spotify use their music next year.
I now completely understand how artists get ripped off.
Youre almost gleeful in it. You sound damn near excited not to be paid for your work. Its like you think your work isnt worth the money.
Is it, like. A fetish thing? Some domination kink?
I do get paid for my work and am well aware of what my work is worth. Not what I'd like for it to be worth, but the reality of people spending money on what I make.
Thats an odd lie, as youve already stated that you do not value art paid for on spotify if it isnt popular enough.
People have spent money on this art, that spotify is now refusing to pay for. You have repeatedly stated you think that money isnt deserved, despite being paid.
Why are you changing the story now?