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[–] Saltblue@lemmy.world 64 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Flash news people like fiction not as a representation of reality but as a stylized, idealized versión of it, that's why you see beautiful people, not fat, ugly or old. So it's autistic quirky and not every day autistic.

I'm aware it's an impopular opinion but that doesn't make it less true. And you can gauge it by how popular it is.

[–] dreamer@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Also romanticized.... Mental illnesses...

Also it's funny to hear about unfairness in media or Hollywood. Such as women are expected to be beautiful and not be over 30. There's a lot you can say about it, but something about it makes me feel it's deeply hypocritical.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

that’s why you see beautiful people, not fat, ugly or old

I frankly don't usually agree with Hollywood ideas of "beautiful". Which is also the reason I'm watching mainstream movies (and I'm not a cinema enthusiast, so mainstream is all I watch) less and less - those ideas are becoming even more narrow and specific over time. I'm feeling as if some subculture's or even some little group's idea of "cool" is being shoved down my throat, in appearances and writing and cinematographic language even.

In my personal opinion people I know are in average more beautiful than Hollywood faces active now.

[–] Saltblue@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I frankly don't usually agree with Hollywood

I said fiction, not Hollywood. And yes you can have your own preferences, I'm not saying that you can't, just that what we call mainstream is the representation of objective beauty.

those ideas are becoming even more narrow and specific over time

Depending on who you ask, somebody would tell you it's the contrary.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

just that what we call mainstream is the representation of objective beauty

Beauty can be only subjective by definition.

[–] Saltblue@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Nope, facial and body symmetry can determine if someone is considered universally beautiful.

And it's not limited to humans, animals and plants can be considered universally beautiful.

The sea and the starry sky, a sunset, the moon etc, if it moves emotion within you then it's beautiful, and there are things that move the world entirely.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Nope, facial and body symmetry can determine if someone is considered universally beautiful.

Facial and body symmetry is ugly or at least scary. You've just never seen people with that.

Other than that - beauty is by definition your own opinion on whether something looks good or bad. If there's a single person in the world who disagrees - then it's not universal. If there is none, but there may be the next moment - then it's not universal.

and there are things that move the world entirely

Nothing moves the world entirely. Majority vote doesn't apply here and even the 3 (or up to 7, whatever) sigma rule doesn't.

[–] Saltblue@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I respect your wrong opinion, have a nice day.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 months ago

Take a sufficiently well-centered photo, leave only the left or the right half, and replace the other one with its mirrored version. Then honestly say whether what you see is beautiful or ugly.

If you know that, just walk around here trolling, then bon appetit and ignore my advice.