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"We recognize that, in the next four years, our decision may cause us to have an even more difficult time. But we believe that this will give us a chance to recalibrate, and the Democrats will have to consider whether they want our votes or not."

That's gotta be one of the strangest reasonings I've heard in a while.

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[–] capital@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (3 children)

If they can’t see a difference between having legal abortions and not, they’re fucking idiots.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes, Roe still exists and we need to preserve it by... making excuses for not codifying it.

[–] capital@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Hey maybe republicans will do it.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

"Everyone to my left is all the way to my right"

[–] capital@lemmy.world -5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Na mine is “those idiots think getting the party furthest from their supposed ideal elected will be good for them”.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Then don't accuse me of being a Republican for pointing out that Democrats did fuck all to preserve Roe.

[–] capital@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I didn’t. I was sarcastically pointing out that we have a 0% chance of that happening under republicans.

Meanwhile if we had elected Clinton we would be looking at a very different SCOTUS and still have Roe standing.

I naively thought that out little Trump boondoggle would remind people of what can happen when they forget what kind of system we all function under but here we are, again, saying “you really don’t want to do that”.

Guess we need another round to make things even worse?

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I didn’t.

Bullshit.

Meanwhile if we had elected Clinton we would be looking at a very different SCOTUS and still have Roe standing.

If Clinton had run as though she needed votes in states she ignored, she might have won.

But trying to get votes is beneath Democrats.

[–] capital@lemmy.world -3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

lol the fuck? It’s literally a facetious statement “maybe republicans will do it” while knowing full well that would never happen.

Nothing in that comment even slightly suggests I’m calling you a Republican.

How does one “ignore” a state?

That’s it, if Biden doesn’t come knocking on my door I’m not voting for him. Otherwise, how could I ask him questions and gather information on his policy positions? [this is another sarcastic paragraph meant to point out the fact that people shouldn’t need a visit from a candidate to make a voting decision. TV and the internet exist.]

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How does one “ignore” a state?

By not campaigning in them.

That’s it, if Biden doesn’t come knocking on my door I’m not voting for him. Otherwise, how could I ask him questions and gather information on his policy positions?

I mean, that's what Clinton failed to do in swing states. And it's why she lost. You may think that swing states have an overinflated sense of their own importance and that talking to the flyover hayseeds is unbecoming, but ultimately, votes are earned, and can be lost. Clinton couldn't grasp that. She lost.

You can't grasp it either.

Maybe it's because understanding it means you'll have to admit that Clinton earned her loss.

[–] jhulten@infosec.pub 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If you can't see the difference between not being able to get an abortion and your mother being dead, then I pity you and your lack of empathy.

If the overturn of Roe has turned you into a one issue voter, then I will pair you off with a 2nd amendment one issue voter and you can angrily jerk each other off.

[–] capital@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Na I just picked an issue that any fucking moron would be able to tell the parties apart on.

Hey maybe Trump will be better on Muslim relations though.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub -4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ah yes, Muslims are famously all pro-choice.

[–] capital@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

TIL discerning between two things is tantamount to support for one of them.