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OpenAI Employees Say Firm's Chief Scientist Has Been Making Strange Spiritual Claims (futurism.com)

submitted 11 months ago by GorillasAreForEating@awful.systems to c/sneerclub@awful.systems

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[–] earthquake@lemm.ee 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

It’s not very good at most of what it does

don’t think these systems are the useless toys

It's excellent at what it does, which is create immense reams of spam, make the internet worse in profitable ways, and generate at scale barely sufficient excuses to lay off workers. Any other use case, as far as I've seen, remains firmly at the toy level.

But @GorillasAreForEating was talking about OpenAI, not just him.

Taking a step back... this is far removed from the point of origin: @Hanabie claims Sutskever specifically is "allowed to be weird" because he's a genius. If we move the goalposts back to where they started, it becomes clear it's not accurate to categorise the pushback as "OpenAI has no technical accomplishments".

I ask that you continue to mock rationalists who style themselves the High Poobah of Shape Rotators, chanting about turning the spam vortex into a machine God, and also mock anyone who says it's OK for them to act this way because they have a gigantic IQ. Even if the spam vortex is impressive on a technical level!

[–] GorillasAreForEating@awful.systems 4 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I suppose the goalpost shifting is my fault, the original comment was about Sutskever but I shifted talking about OpenAI in general, in part because I don't really know to what extent Sutskever is individually responsible for OpenAI's tech.

also mock anyone who says it’s OK for them to act this way because they have a gigantic IQ.

I think people are missing the irony in that comment.

[–] earthquake@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm still not convinced Hanabie was being ironic, but if so missing the satire is a core tradition of Sneer Club that I am keeping alive for future generations.

[–] GorillasAreForEating@awful.systems 2 points 11 months ago

I think there's a non-ironic element too. Sutskever can be both genuinely smart and weird cultist; just because someone is smart in one domain doesn't mean they aren't immensely foolish in others.