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Link to the poll mentioned.

A good break down of the other polls done by Yougov on this subject by youtuber Phil Moorhouse.

My personal opinion is that Labour do not want to talk about Brexit until they can stop the Tory media telling lies on the subject. We will only get one shot at reversing this fiasco, so they want to get it right. With Labour I agree on this. Let it lie until we can have some actual facts on the matter. Any discussions with current media throwing in their bias is swayed by those who have pocketed billions from the Misery imposed over Brexit.

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[–] theinspectorst@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

My personal opinion is that Labour do not want to talk about Brexit until they can stop the Tory media telling lies on the subject. We will only get one shot at reversing this fiasco, so they want to get it right.

Labour don't want to talk about Brexit because they're already on course to win the election by a landslide, so why do anything different to exactly what they're already doing? It's not about only getting one shot to get this right, it's just profound risk aversion. Labour's preferred outcome is for literally nothing to change in the political debate between today and election day.

Remember though that polling has shown for some time that, if a Rejoin referendum was held tomorrow, Rejoin would win comfortably. So Labour will be forced to change their approach on this when (probably sometime during the next parliament) the Lib Dems start getting more vocal on Rejoin, causing Labour to start bleeding votes to them - at which point the risk averse thing for Labour to do will now be to start talking about the issues that matter to the moderate pro-EU majority.

It'll be a repeat of what happened with the People's Vote campaign, where Labour failed to entertain the idea right up until the 2019 EU elections, where they finished 3rd behind the Lib Dems, losing even in solid-red Labour heartlands like Islington, which forced Labour to have to catch up with where Labour voters already were on this issue.

[–] Syldon 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think we both agree that the opinion of the swing seats is a driving force of the Labour/Starmer narrative. Although Labour did not finish 3rd in the 2019 election, or am I missing something with "the people's vote".

[–] theinspectorst@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

2019 EU elections

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48403131

This is what prompted Labour to finally endorse the People's Vote campaign in their 2019 general election manifesto.

[–] Syldon 1 points 1 year ago

I will read up on it, cheers. I am relatively new to looking at politics. The historical things I have to read up on.

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