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Replying to @RichardHanania

I'm against legalizing bestiality because the animal consent problem hasn't been solved, but probably actually will be quite soon thanks to Al (at least for the higher animals with complex languages). So why not wait a few more years. I don't see disgust as a good reason. It was an evolutionary adaptation of the agricultural era against the spread of zoonotic illnesses, but technology will soon make that entirely irrelevant as well.

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[–] nehal3m@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Philosophical question: if brutally torturing and murdering billions of animals is fine, why do we draw the line at sex? I’m a vegetarian and have never ideated it, but the position is untenable.

[–] self@awful.systems 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

HMMMMM I WONDER

shots are on me tonight, vegetarian reply guy with pretend opinions was my last square before blackout!

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 7 points 1 year ago

“I can excuse bestiality, but I draw the line at animal cruelty”

[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I think your framing is flawed (I don't think it's an issue of consent so much as it's an issue of creating animal suffering for personal benefit), but I broadly agree - I personally get past the hypocrisy because I have no interest in fucking animals, and push the suffering I cause by eating animal products to the back of my mind and pretending it's not a thing. Responsibility is also meaningfully abstracted in the food example, making it far easier to pretend you're not at fault compared to having a chicken impaled on your dick.

In a similar way, people consuming products made in sweatshops and people downloading CSA material are both exploiting children.