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I'm an atheist but grew up Christian. This hints at the true disconnect between evangelicals and others: ensoulment.
We all have immortal souls, right? What makes us, us can't just be physical, otherwise how will we spend eternity in heaven? So when does the soul enter the body? A specific month during pregnancy seems arbitrary. And you could say at birth, but isn't the baby fundamentally the same developmentally the moment before birth and moment after? So we have "life begins at conception". And if a zygote has a soul, then destroying it is murder. And our current abortion system is like a baby holocaust every year.
Once your start with a false premise, you can logically follow each step to claim that abortion is an injustice on the level of slavery.
This just causes me to have many more questions. I wonder, before conception, is the new soul in the egg, or in the sperm? Am I committing holocausts each time I, you know? Are women committing murder by having a period? Or are the sperm or egg ‘loaded’ with souls by the body upon being, uh, deployed? I mean, the testes constantly produce and break down sperm, and the ovaries contain far more eggs than will ever be released. And how did the seed souls get in body? Were they there from conception? Did God pre-load all souls that ever could possibly be born into Eve or Adam? Could we measure the current stock to get an estimate for when the Rapture will occur and human history will end? Could miscarriages be the result of the failure to load a soul into the gamete before conception? If so, then why punish women for having one? If God pre-loaded all of the souls, did He know how human history would play out, in order to pre-load just the right ones that would be born? If so, He must have foreseen abortion, so it makes no sense to forbid them. But that doesn’t account for free will, so He must have had to pre-load a lot extras that would never be born, so it’s God, really, who’s the mass-murderer on an incomprehensible scale, right?
I’ll stop now. This is just too heavy for breakfast pondering.
I think it gets a soul from their deity at conception. You're fine jerkin' it. The ones I know believe each soul is given by god.
Don't ask about preloading the 'right' souls as it makes no sense to them and fucks free will up heavily.
“These things you’re asking, they’re questions, right? Questions about god and his word, right? STOP.”
– Christians
Simple, the soul enters the body with the first breath.
I've read before that this is literally what the bible says, but haven't found anything confirming it. Does anybody know the verse?
The creation of Adam is usually what I've seen used as biblical evidence of this, with God described as having breathed life into the form of man.