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FBI Labels Anti-Fascists and Anti-Racists as Violent Extremists (unicornriot.ninja)

submitted 11 months ago by masquenox@lemmy.world to c/aboringdystopia@lemmy.world

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A recently released Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) document titled “Domestic Terrorism Symbols Guide”* links common protest symbols to “terrorism” — another marker in a common theme of conflating militant protest for social justice with deadly terrorist violence within the United States. Groups like the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) and the Brennan Center have raised warnings about such documents, citing inadequate protections for people’s constitutional rights.

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[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

A group can be right and also be violent and extremist.

[–] negativeyoda@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

Not untrue, but antifa in general would cease to exist if fascists stopped coming to cities to menace people

[–] explodicle@local106.com -3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

In this context they're using "extremist" to mean "goes too far".

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Do they? It didn't really seem like a value judgment to me.

But you can also be right and go to far. I don't know if these groups do go to far, but nuclear annihilation for example would definitely be too far.

[–] explodicle@local106.com 0 points 11 months ago

In that case they'd be right about just the problem, but not right in their entire position which includes a solution. Nobody who thinks we should nuke the world for anything is right.

[–] explodicle@local106.com -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes, they do.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The site doesn’t refute violent extremist beliefs point by point or discuss matters of faith or politics. Instead, it makes teens aware of the destructive reality of various forms of violent extremism, including hateful attacks based on race, religion, or other factors. Through its Don’t Be a Puppet theme, the program encourages teens to think for themselves and display a healthy skepticism if they come across anyone who appears to be advocating extremist violence.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

and display a healthy skepticism if they come across anyone who appears to be advocating extremist violence.

...except when it comes to the violent extremism of the FBI and other alphabet agencies, of course.

[–] explodicle@local106.com 2 points 11 months ago

They don't recognize it as extremism, and might even have the gall to deny that it's violence.

[–] explodicle@local106.com 0 points 11 months ago

I think we'll have to agree to disagree as to what constitutes an obvious value judgement.