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What you guys are hosting instead of Nextcloud? I'm sick of it. (alien.top)
submitted 11 months ago by Sudden_Cheetah7530@alien.top to c/main@selfhosted.forum
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I am hosting more than 10 services currently but only Nextcloud sends me errors periodically and only Nextcloud is super extremely painfully slow. I quit this sh*t. No more troubleshooting and optimization.

There are mainly 4 services in Nextcloud I'm using:

  • Files: as simple server for upload and download binaries
  • Calendar (with DAVx5): as sync server without web UI
  • Notes: simple note-taking
  • Network folder: mounted on Linux dolphin

Could you recommend me the alternatives for these? All services are supposed to be exposed by HTTPS, so authentication like login is needed. And I've tried note-taking apps like Joplin or trillium but couldn't like it.

Thanks in advance.

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[–] djbon2112@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Owncloud.

I personally never caught the Nextcloud hype, and stuck with the original. So far I've heard (and seen, having tried it twoce) nothing but trouble from Nextcloud while my Owncloud install continues to be rock solid for going on 10 years (regularly updated, of course!).

[–] Theon@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I personally never caught the Nextcloud hype

The "hype" being simply Nextcloud not being OwnCloud which turned proprietary, no?

[–] djbon2112@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Owncloud is not proprietary (it's AGPLv3) and I'm really not sure where people get that idea.

The original Nextcloud/Owncloud fork was due to disagreements in development direction, not (say) like Jellyfin/Emby where there was actually a license change. Nextcloud wanted to "move fast", Owncloud wanted stability. There was potential concern around the time of the fork that, perhaps, hypothetically, some day, Owncloud might "go proprietary", but going on close to 10 years that has not happened.

[–] natriusaut@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Dunno, running my nextcloud for a long time now, even updating the lazy way over the web UI and not the suggested CLI, not even once had a problem that was Nextclouds fault.

[–] AnApexBread@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Same. I ran OwnCloud and Nextcloud in parallel for a while until a Nextcloud update nuked it and my wife lost some of her college work.

After that I've appreciated the slower more deliberate pace of OwnCloud

[–] Discommodian@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I always recommend OwnCloud. It even has a raw photo viewer plugin and if you know anything about RAW 24 megapixel photos, they are tough to load. But with owncloud a folder full of 30 pictures loads within 10-15 seconds