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He must be laughing so hard now... :-)
That hasn’t been confirmed at all. No one from the board has commented even anonymously as far as I’ve seen. This is a play by Altman and his supporters to try and influence public opinion and make the board seem incompetent.
Maybe. Allegedly MS is throwing their weight around to try to force it, which does seem plausible.
Though I hope the board stands firm.
Ilya is much more valuable long term to the company than Altman, and frankly the latter leaving is the first time in about a year I've been bullish about OpenAI's prospects.
They really walked their core product back in the past few months despite expanding their productization of it towards low hanging short-term fruit.
Ilya's vision is spot on with where transformers are headed as complexity increases, and is one of the only scientists I've seen that really sees that horizon.
If Altman was standing in the way of getting there, it's better that he's gone.
I agree with you overall though I will say that MS throwing their weight around is really just a lot of hot air at the end of the day. They don’t have a board seat and they were told from the start that their invest should be seen as more of an investment. The non-profit is in control and MS can’t change that.
No, but they are allegedly threatening to bar OpenAI from Azure, and you can't be a leading AI company these days without access to supercomputers.
What is ilyas vision?
Also, being right about the tech doesn't mean you will be successful. You have to balance short term wins with long term gains. Often engineers and technical folks struggle with that process because it often means compromising theor utopian ideals in the short term.
I think it's short sighted to dismiss Sam's contribution to their success and amplify Ilyas.
Ilya had seemed to be more of the closed corporate yes man, more interested in profit paths than open ethical development, as evidenced by his various appearances when unfiltereed questions have been allowed. That's not an improvement over Altman.
Maybe, but then it's a genius move, and he can still laugh at them.
All the world was quite busy with learning the name 'OpenAI' during the last months. But OpenAI is history.
The world is learning the name 'Sam Altman' now.
The only thing I associate with the name Sam Altman after this week is incest rape.
What?
His sister claims he raped and abused her since she was 4.
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/QDczBduZorG4dxZiW/sam-altman-s-sister-annie-altman-claims-sam-has-severely
Yeah I dunno bud, I think there’s a pretty big difference between fighting with your siblings and raping them.
The board said they fired him because he wasn't being honest with them, there's no details beyond that so I don't know where you're getting incest from?
SMH do we really have to do this god-emperor thing with every single dude who gets a little bit of fame in the business world
I do not say we should, or we shouldn't.
But it's obvious that it happens, and soon he's going to secure his next few billions from it.
This made me throw up in my mouth a little bit.
Didn’t you fan boys learn after Elon? Altman is not something I’d recommend idolizing. From his crypto BS, to his preper stuff (saying he will survive in the apocalypse… sure), to the stuff his sister is saying he did to her, to his general doucheyness, to his attempts at regulatory capture…
Curious why the down votes? I think it's fair to say this news has been pretty remarkable and has even made it on the news stations. I think a lot of people are probably learning his name right now and makes him seem 'valuable' if the board asks him to come back.
Outside of some major smoking gun, it makes this board look ridiculous. People are already questioning the members credentials and theyve seemingly lost a ton of credibility.
The idea that they are already second guessing amplifies all of that.
For better or worse Sam has been the defacto face of AI for the last 6 months and openAI has such a giant lead on the competition right now. The dev day stuff was actually exciting. Assistants, specialized gpts, the gpt store concept, turbo, etc.
From the Publix perspective Sam has the potential to come out of this looking good and open AI can only lose our here. They surprised their largest partner. That's just a no no. That will have long term consequences regardless of what happens with Sam.
This seems like a huge mistake.