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"Nothing Chats, powered by Sunbird, allows you to directly message other phone users from your Nothing phone via blue bubbles."

I don't think this solves the problem, but it is a step in the right direction.

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[–] joyjoy@lemm.ee 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not about the bubbles. It's the group chats, encryption, media size, and other rich chat features.

[–] people_are_cute@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

All these features you get much better using actual E2E-encrypted chat apps like Signal or WhatsApp like the rest of the world.

The problem is getting other people to also use those apps :(

[–] chahk@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is true.

But also, 99% of the population is not technical enough to download such apps and use them. They will only use the default apps that came with their phone, whatever outdated protocol they happen to be utilizing. Why else do you think Facebook, for example, pays manufacturers to preload their crapware on new handsets? And even more to make it as difficult to remove as possible.

[–] people_are_cute@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

WhatsApp does not come pre-installed on most phones (for some reason it often isn't included even with Facebook's crapware). It is still the de facto chat app in India, Brazil and dozens of other Asian, South American and European countries.

[–] chahk@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As far as I know, SMS in India and Brazil is not free. This means that for majority of users switching to a data-based app is not so much as a choice, but a necessity. In the US texting via SMS has been free for several decades, so there's no reason for people to look for an alternative.

[–] people_are_cute@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

SMS has been free in India since 2016. Though one could say WhatsApp had already become dominant by then, so it stuck.

[–] chahk@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Exactly. It has reached critical mass to a point where if you're not on it, you're basically not communicating.

Also, I remember that cross-carrier calling was an issue, which is why most people would need to use dual-SIM phones. Not sure if it's the same for SMS.