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JERUSALEM (AP) — The head of surgery at Gaza’s largest and most advanced hospital held up his phone Saturday to the hammering of gunfire and artillery shelling. “Listen,” said Dr. Marwan Abu Sada as fighting raged around Shifa Hospital.

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[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Amidst all the Western propaganda you cannot explain these numbers away by saying they target civilians. This doesn't make any sense.

You cannot achieve these numbers on accident by blindly shooting around you at civilians.

israel targets civilians. This is clear.

Hamas however very clearly targeted the IDF with most of their groups on oct 7 and tried to take hostages alive while minimizing civilian casualties.

Once again, America has a 90% civilian casualty rate while "targeting terrorists accurately" this is 300% higher than Hamas on Oct 7.

[–] Critical_Insight 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The difference is easily explained by the fact that Hamas doesn't have access to the same amount and quality of weapons that Israel has. Most of their rockets are shot down mid-flight by the Iron Dome for example. Let's give them nukes and see what happens, shall we?

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What? You're saying their primitive weapons are more accurate than israel's modern billion dollar arsenal?

Hamas was inside israel. they could have easily killed far more civilians by going deeper instead of sticking to the borders if that was their goal.

Their goals were taking hostages and killing IDF soldiers. The numbers we see here very clearly back up that claim as well as plenty of videos of israeli civilians that were claim they not shot by Hamas fighters passing through their house.

[–] Critical_Insight 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm saying the opposite. The only reason they haven't killed more is because they lack the capability. Israel on the other hand could kill every single Palestinian if they wanted to. Same goes with US.

Again. Hamas is lobbing unguided rockets indiscriminately into residential areas. They're not targeting military and killing unfortunate civilians on the side - they're targeting civilians. There's recorded phone call of Hamas fighter calling his parents from the phone of a dead Israeli civilian joyfully telling them he killed 10 jews with his own hands.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

https://youtu.be/rD7NI0tGbp8?si=uBXDeTC_thgCxG_F

I have video evidence right here of my claim.

Please do link your source though.

[–] Critical_Insight 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks. I've listened to the call and he sounds like a young man that is unable to differentiate between the terror regime oppressing him since his birth and regular Jews. Not an old senior Hamas member or anything of the like.

Probably doesn't even know much about Hamas, he just has a blind hate for all Jews because of israel abusing the Jewish name as a shield for their Zionist crimes.

[–] Critical_Insight 1 points 1 year ago

he sounds like a young man

As is the case with war in general; it's young men killing each other while the old seniors are sitting in a bunker somewhere.