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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/8181688

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[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 10 months ago (4 children)

If we were in a hypothetical revolutionary situation led by anarchists that was genuinely and successfully challenging state capitalist power here in the UK then I, as a Marxist-Leninist, wouldn’t be like “Erm, guys, you haven’t sufficiently considered Lenin! Aren’t you aware that the hijacking and reconfiguration of the state for socialist purposes is a necessary transition period towards communism?” I would get behind the fucking barricades with them.

That's exactly what happened in Spain though. The revolution was an anarchist affair, and while MLs fought with, they demanded anarchists become MLs if they wanted bullets.

[–] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 23 points 10 months ago (3 children)

they demanded anarchists become MLs if they wanted bullets.

Stalin literally gave them hundreds of tanks

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

To whom, under what conditions. We have plenty of evidence that Stalin wanted to crush the anarchists in spain. Again, I don't go into the debate here. There's plenty of other people who will happily debate you on this

[–] Autonomarx@hexbear.net 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They did the same thing in supporting the Kuomintang from the Japanese conquest of China right up until the Maoists pushed them out of the mainland. Do you think that perhaps inferior methods of military and industrial organization could have played a part in this, or should Mao have called Stalin red fash and given up?

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago

It's very convenient when Stalinists betray anarchists and then blame them for the results of that betrayal. Every situation is not the same mate. China vs Japan is not half of spain VS Franco and Hitler.