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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/8181688

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[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago (26 children)

Why should I argue "I'm not an elephant" as we say in my country? This is patently absurd. You erected a strawman and I called you out. As far as I'm concerned, case closed, unless you can point where in my words I acted like a marginalized class because of historical anarchists.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 37 points 1 year ago (24 children)

Look again at the fucking meme in the OP. "oh, the tankies killed us anarchists in these historical conflicts, and they will kill us anarchists in future conflicts too if we don't stop them!"

Just saying a fucking fallacy name isn't a counterargument anymore than saying "you're wrong" is a counterargument. Actual arguments require making inferences, not just stating premises.

Personally, I think that someone leading insurrections against institutions that have overwhelming popular support due to actively working to give people healthcare, food, etc. is clearly a counterrevolutionary prick and an anarchist who opposes a project that feeds the children for the first time in centuries because it's not a syndicate is being myopic at best, but that's just me.

[–] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Personally, I think that someone leading insurrections against institutions that have overwhelming popular support due to actively working to give people healthcare, food, etc. is clearly a counterrevolutionary prick and an anarchist who opposes a project that feeds the children for the first time in centuries because it's not a syndicate is being myopic at best, but that's just me.

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If we were in a hypothetical revolutionary situation led by anarchists that was genuinely and successfully challenging state capitalist power here in the UK then I, as a Marxist-Leninist, wouldn't be like "Erm, guys, you haven't sufficiently considered Lenin! Aren't you aware that the hijacking and reconfiguration of the state for socialist purposes is a necessary transition period towards communism?" I would get behind the fucking barricades with them.

There's a difference between opposing lesser evilism in the context of Western capitalist electoral politics between two bourgeois parties, and like, being anti-ML or anti-anarchist in actual revolutionary situations (and not stupid fucking hypothetical internet arguments) because "it's not doing communism right." Unless there were like, REALLY fucking big problems with what the group is doing, I would just shut up and not weaken the overall movement. As Awoo stated, this is literally what ML groups are doing in Palestine as we speak.

[–] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Would it be a better idea to join the anarchists, or form a Marxist Leninist and Anarchist coalition?

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