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What is a product that you won’t accept a generic alternative for? (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 year ago by jeffw@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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For example, if you insist on buying Advil instead of store brand ibuprofen. I mean, you’d be wasting your money in that example, but you do you

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[–] Saizaku@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

especially when you know that that country is heavily invested in cyberwarfare, espionage and censorship.

Which country isn't? The US does more spying on its own citizens than China could ever dream of doing. The UK is currently trying to pass a bill to break e2ee.

Even their constitution states that every Chinese product ( software or hardware ), must send data it collects to the government.

This is false as far as I know, can you provide a source? China has some of the strictest laws on data protection, you can read more about it here: https://academic.oup.com/idpl/article/12/2/75/6537091?login=false

This is like Apple saying your Android spies on you... lol ( I believe they did say that )

Not sure where you were going with this. My point is you don't hear any of these concerns raised about any other and as we both agree it's not something unique to China.

The real reason why you hear a lot of talk about moving production out of China lately is simply because Chinese manufacurers have narrowed the the gap a lot in terms of chip designs and are becoming an actual threat to western comanies' profit margins.

[+] adam_b@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] Saizaku@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Linking to the great firewall article is completely nonsensical in this context, and you would be aware of that if you had bothered to open the link in my previous comment.

just so we on the same page, I'm talking about data is gathered, not whether it's protected ( legally ) , idc

Which is exactly what I'm talking about, which you would again know if you read what I linked.

I'm not a lawyer but I think somewhere in the DSL it mentions data is collected from companies within China and outside

It doesn't, what I linked to discusses the very laws you are talking about at length if you are actually interested rather than just spouting nonsense like "it's in the constitution".

Just so we're on the same page you have no idea about Chinese laws on gathering, processing and handling of data, but you heard it somewhere, repeat it, won't bother to research further and then claim there's no propaganda.

but why is it hard for you to swallow, knowing that US based companies ( with all the power they have, lawyers.. Etc ) comply with data collection laws

Because they don't. Evidenced by all the fines the EU is handing out to google, meta, etc. You could also look to all the stuff Snowden blew the whostle on. Do you think they just stopped doing mass surveillance on a global level?