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Yay! As a father, that app makes me nervous
Edit: wow just coming back to this, I think I may have just started a war
Posted unironically on social media that does far less patrolling and safety restrictions for children
Yeah but to be fair it's not like children, or even adults really, are flocking to this app.
Get your kids a dumbphone.
They'll thank you later.
Why? It's no different than any western social media. In fact, in my experience, western media tries to push their agendas on me, while my Tiktok is just full of random tech videos and cats.
"Random" lmao
They show you exactly what their algorithm thinks gets you the most addicted and wants you to interact with the app in any way possible. Most of the time that's achieved by making you feel negative emotions
Just like Facebook or Instagram
And Twitter, Reddit, Youtube. Sadly this isn't an internet only phenomenon
Ok. Western apps do the same, but worse in my experience.
Not sure how cats are negative emotions. Put your tinfoil hat back on.
You're right about that, they're also trash
Yup. Never said they weren't.
Lemmy is so toxic lmao. Downvoting me in their little echo chamber because I pointed out that western apps are "worse" for it.
I find any group with deeply entrenched beliefs will trend towards toxicity.
Agreed, we should ban them all
That's usually true at first, showing users content they like is gratifying to the user, but satisfied users don't stay on the app. So for example, I like motorcycles, humor, tech, dog content, and poker. Tik Tok could show me relevant videos and I'd maybe browse for a few minutes and then go do something else. But the algorithm kind of slows down the dopamine hits/relevant videos and starts inserting more content that is depressing/irrelevant... The algorithm uses the same logic that makes gambling so addictive, they'll make you feel like the dopamine hit is just around the corner, except it takes a bit longer to get there every time. "One more hand" ...>
Facebook was at its worst in 2014-2018 or so. The algorithm became incredibly rage-inducing and pervasive. Facebook would intentionally show you content that you dislike(like right-wing bullshit) and if the more you interacted with it(especially if it was dislike) facebook would show you more and more of that. I was getting bombarded by extremism ideologies on Facebook and at the time I didn't understand that this was the algorithm.
The Internet is no longer just "likes cat video, give more cat videos", and pushing that notion is uneducated. Tik Tok is the worst of all the apps by far, but all of the social media companies use sophisticated algorithms that intentionally fuck with you just to get you addicted to their apps.
I think more people need to be informed on how these algorithms work and why they are so dangerous, especially to kids. Speaking of kids, there's a lot of content on TikTok which sexualizes underage teens. Also, I would block literally every thirst trap on TikTok that showed up in my feed, because that is simply the last thing I want to see on TikTok, yet the algorithm is so aggressive, it will continue to push content that you dislike so you are unsatisfied for longer.
I've deleted Tik Tok a few times in the past but I haven't used it in about 2 years or so. Imagine how little the average person in this country knows about these algorithms.
You guys really need to take a chill pill. You guys are such conspiracy theorists.
My Tiktok is just cat videos. I literally never get fed anything else. Cat, technology, and science.
I'm not sure how they are fucking with me.
I guess you think showing me content is fucking with me, because you're only used to the 30K active users on Lemmy, and the minimal amount of content posted here per day, lmao.
Truly, though, this community is extremely toxic. You're all hating on me, downvoting me, because Tiktok is feeding me cat videos.
I don't see how I was toxic in any way. Besides, this isn't reddit. There is no karma, so if people downvote you, who cares? That just means that people think you're wrong.
Here's a thought, let's say you're perfectly satisfied with how your content delivery/algorithm. You're a responsible adult who can manage your screen time. Should TikTok be doing more to protect youth(those most vulnerable) from predatory content? There's been quite a few studies now and even states suing TikTok for their effects on youth's mental health.
You're making a few assumptions about me(implying I'm living under a rock or something)... Unfortunately I spend a large part of my day on the computer due to work and I grew up with the internet. So I try to spend what free time I have reading/studying, and maybe consume a bit of streaming in a day.
If you knew the horrible content that most kids are being served now, it would make your head roll. I don't let my kid watch YouTube but his cousins are all crazed on tiktok content. Look up skibidi toilet.
The irony.