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[–] PatFussy@lemm.ee 51 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

I dont know why Biden gets so much hate. He has been a fantastic president so far. Could he have done more? Sure, but I dont understand why the hate. They say "hold my nose" to vote for him... like wtf why?

[–] ski11erboi@lemm.ee 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah I'm right there with you. Biden has accomplished a lot. I don't agree with everything he's said or done but as a whole he's done a fantastic job turning America around. If he can beat Trump once he can beat him again and that is paramount. Plus it gives dems another 4 years to start pushing younger more progressive candidates into the spotlight.

[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't forget Trump is dragging the Republican party down, big time. - he will destroy the country. He has allowed those who are enemies of the constitution to come out of the closet and attack democracy.
Biden on the other hand, has surprised us by being more progressive than we thought he would be. He may not be physically agile but he knows good policy, like forgiving student loans for example, and he knows how to get legislation passed.

[–] DontRedditMyLemmy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What if the GOP replaces Trump? There are a lot of ways he could become unelectable in the next year. So how would Biden do against a fresh Republican candidate? (My guess is Biden could lose if he doesn't have the "anyone but Trump" vote, so I hope the Dems have a fresh candidate of their own ready to take up the torch soon.)

[–] tacosplease@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

GOP is locked in. Their base won't accept anyone else.

[–] nucleative@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

I think the GOP has rolled out it's freshest candidates and they are running now.

They won't bring in a new candidate, if Trump can't run he will cut a deal with Desantis and back him under an arrangement that Desantis pardons Trumps charges. Desantis is not a platform that will help the American people.

[–] krakenx@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

A lot of people don't understand how hard it is to fix things with a hostile Supreme Court and an obstructive congress. To the people saying "both sides are the same because Biden has only managed to clean up a few of Trump's messes", how would you do it instead? Biden has decades of experience, and he's trying. Do you honestly believe someone else could do better?

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Because he's not charismatic.

People like to point to his earlier career not aging well to current social / political norms, completely ignoring that adapting one's values as society evolves is a desirable trait.

But really, it comes down to charisma. He's awkward and not particularly likeable, and people will bend over backwards to justify their dislike of him despite his accomplishments.

Then there are the hardline progressives, who literally no one electable will ever please. I'm sure even Bernie would have had to make too many compromises ,or fail to deliver enough, to alienate these folks if he had taken the presidency.

If Bernie got elected hard-line progressives would be throwing themselves off their roofs onto the grass outside their mothers houses for how little he's done and how all politicians are the same lol.

[–] vivadanang@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Axelrod and a bunch of the 'conservative' left really, really dislike Kamala and fear her as a president.

[–] abracaDavid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because he's just there to maintain the status quo in a system that's been pushed to the brink and is no longer providing for the people participating in said system.

Also he's so, so fucking old.

We someone to bring about a ton of meaningful change, and fast. Biden isn't the one to do it.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 21 points 1 year ago

We someone to bring about a ton of meaningful change, and fast. Biden isn’t the one to do it.

Our system is not designed to do this. So really no one is, unless we are going to throw the whole system out.

He's not been perfect, of course, but he's been pretty good. And more importantly because he has a ton of experience and connections, he's been pretty effective. Again, all within the system we have.

So unless we are going to throw the whole system out, it's hard to say you are going to get a more effective candidate than Biden.