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[–] ThePyroPython 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you ever feel uninformed about history, remember the comment above exists.

[–] DeathWearsANecktie@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I really don't know what people expect of the UN. It's far from perfect, but it's still a means of getting countries to engage in some sort of dialogue and for countries to scrutinize each others actions. Granted, the original attempt (the League of Nations) failed to prevent WW2 but that was no reason not to try again. We might not gain much from the existence of the UN, but we stand to lose a heck of a lot without it.

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

The only people that really stand to benefit from losing the UN are fascists and other malignant autocrats. Aye it's not perfect, but it's better than nothing.

Anyone that doesn't agree with that is either also malignant or uninformed enough to fall for fascist propaganda.

[–] guriinii@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's just a load of people saying we don't like what you're doing, this thing is bad, don't do that. That's it. For something that was setup to prevent atrocities like we're seeing in Palestine, and have been seeing for 75 years, historically, it's done, and continues to do, a pretty terrible job.

[–] ThePyroPython 7 points 1 year ago

The UN wasn't set up to prevent atrocities like Palestine/Israel.

It was set up to prevent large multi-nation conflicts like WW1 and WW2 by providing a platform for dialogue & diplomacy between multiple countries WITH a standing army acting as a peacekeeping force.

Unfortunately, proxy conflicts like Israel/Palestine still occur.