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[–] Nobody@lemmy.world 121 points 10 months ago (8 children)

I'm still not seeing why Israel is being treated as a priority over or at least equal to Ukraine. Ukraine is up against a legitimately strong adversary using human wave tactics. Israel is dropping bombs seemingly indiscriminately on mostly civilians. Ukraine is fighting for its existence. Israel is getting revenge on its much, much weaker neighbor.

If Iran and its proxies enter the war, that might change the calculations, but that hasn't happened yet.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 66 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Israel is also rich as fuck with a strong military. They do not need financial support.

[–] thilo@lemmy.ml 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

But politicians elsewhere need israeli support (to get voted they believe)

[–] Cannacheques@slrpnk.net 2 points 10 months ago

NSO group would like a word with you

[–] PilferJynx@lemmy.world 36 points 10 months ago

Agreed. Isreal doesn't need help putting the boot on helpless children.

[–] Illuminostro@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago

It's a strategic foothold in the region for the US. And "Jeebus."

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 16 points 10 months ago

And the more support Israel gets to kill those civilians the more likely sympathetic regional neighbours would be inclined to join. And rightly so. It's genocide.

[–] bioemerl@kbin.social 8 points 10 months ago

Republicans like Israel and don't (all) like Ukraine

[–] zerfuffle@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Agreed. Even if Iran enters the war, it will be to stop a genocide. I don't understand why the US is so keen to tie themselves to Netanyahu's government.

[–] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

US and Isntreal share the same settler colonial ideology and history. Native Americans or Palestinians, its all about genociding the "uncivilised tribal hordes" to make space for themselves.

[–] CountryBreakfast@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 10 months ago

Exactly. Any threat to Israel is a threat to US legitimacy.

[–] teichflamme@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

Yeah, Iran is known as a moral beacon in the region, holding up human rights.

The only reason they would enter a war is, of course, to stop a so called genocide

[–] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago

Ukraine was never about Ukraine. It was about NATO's attempt to balkanise Russia, as said by US ex-VP Dick Cheney. It was about the attempted CIA coup during 2003 Orange protests, which failed, and another CIA attempt at 2013 Euromaidan protests, which succeeded, overthrowing sovereignty and democracy, installing US puppet, installing biochemical factories for genocide attempt against Russia, and to make more money for military weapons industry.

It was all about USA using Ukraine as a condom to fuck with Russia, and the whole NATO failed in unison.

[–] Pasta4u@lemmy.world -5 points 10 months ago

We have already given the Ukraine over a 100b in funds. We don't need to give them anymore. I also don't want us to give aid to anyone.