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[–] arymandias@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I’m kind of interested who you would call fascist in the Dune universe?

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Most of the leaders, really? Paul was a fascist, and Leto II after him, most prominently

[–] arymandias@feddit.de 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In my head Paul (and the Fremen) are more similar to the Mongol Empire, violent and conquering but not fascist. But I stopped reading after part 2 and it has been a while

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They would be considered fascists, yeah.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

They are dictators in a despotic government; but what about the Atredies was fascist? They famously listened to their people. They literally incorporated people that were not part of their race, religion or species and treated them as equal. That's not fascism.

Do they do something in the other books that's fascist? I've only ever read the first one.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The genocide, literal imperialism, and holy warring doesn't count as enough for you?

I was more talking about the Mongols, personally, who famously killed anyone that resisted, but idk, I don't think you need to be talking about converting everything to the state to be fascistic.

[–] max@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Leto II probably