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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis defended his call to ban pro-Palestinian groups from Florida state colleges Sunday, after one of his Republican presidential primary opponents, Vivek Ramaswamy, slammed the demand as “a shameful political ploy.”

“It’s unconstitutional. It’s utter hypocrisy for someone who railed against left-wing cancel culture,” Ramaswamy posted on X (formerly Twitter) Thursday, alleging that it violates students’ right to free speech.

DeSantis held firm Sunday.

“This is not cancel culture. This group, they themselves said, in the aftermath of the Hamas attack, that they don’t just stand in solidarity that they are part of this Hamas movement,” DeSantis said during an interview on NBC’s “Meet the Press.”

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[–] Thief_of_Crows@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Killing genociders is good, actually.

[–] yuriy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hand-wavey justifications are so in right now.

[–] Thief_of_Crows@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not a justification. If a country is committing genocide, it is good to kill them. Period.

[–] yuriy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“It’s not a justification, I’m just saying they’re in the right for this reason.”

Do you know what the word “justification” means? Are you arguing based on some specific meaning that only you know about? I feel like I’m being gaslit, next you’re gonna say that you never said killing civilians indiscriminately was a good thing.

[–] Thief_of_Crows@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, I am not justifying it because it does not need to be justified. It is always good to kill genocidal people. I don't think I said that killing civilians is good, just that it's necessary. When they make it us or them, it is morally correct to choose yourself.

[–] yuriy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can say that’s not what you’re doing all the live-long day, my guy, it doesn’t change the fact that what you’re LITERALLY DOING is providing justification. Just because you believe it’s an objective truth, given you can’t even consider the idea you may be wrong, doesn’t just make it objectively true.

[–] Thief_of_Crows@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bro, I'm an American who supports Palestine, you really think I haven't considered that I might be wrong? That's the entire reason I know I'm right, because I discovered that all of the propaganda I grew up seeing on the news was wrong.

In 1940s Germany, the only good German was a dead German. The same is true now for Israel. If the term "Never Again" means ANYTHING to you, you support killing as many Israelis as necessary to prevent a second holocaust.

[–] yuriy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

this just in, we’re in a complete socioeconomic and political analogue of the 1940s and it only took one very smart, propaganda-immune american to see it. have fun being radicalized.

[–] Thief_of_Crows@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is a very weird thing to say, because obviously there is such a thing as truth. Which means it's entirely possible I understand the truth. But you're acting as if I couldn't possibly have simply studied politics long enough to know what the truth is.

Most issues have a correct answer, and you either agree with it or you're wrong. I suggest you spend more time trying to be correct, and less trying to be right.

[–] yuriy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I’m done trying to take you seriously. Go be enlightened somewhere else, you intellectual, you.