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More anti-Lemmy brigading with massive upvotes on Reddit as the 3rd party app apocalypse looms
(lemmy.world)
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/715287
Guess where? Unironically r/Save3rdPartyApps
The Reddit search for Lemmy also gives these privacy copy-pasta as top results when searching for Lemmy. I'm still betting that Reddit employees are involved in boosting these posts.
I have to ask.
Is there any truth to what has been said about Lemmy's dev ?
The devs addressed this in the post-reddit-blackout post. You are free to come to your own conclusions.
https://join-lemmy.org/news/2023-06-17_-_Update_from_Lemmy_after_the_Reddit_blackout
""If you don't agree with our opinion you can gtfo" is a concerning stance.
Would love clarification on that. I've been banned enough for having pretty moderate opinions in extremist subs.
I understand if they don't want maga communities here who heavily censor (as they generally do). I hope they're not ban happy for moderate to small differences of opinion.
For example, I think capitalism in small doses can be a good thing, similar to morphine or cocaine having legitimate medical uses. It's the lack of controls that are the primary issue.
I don't want to get overly invested in something if I'm just going to get banned for not being full communist.
But like I said, so far the only accusations have been extremely vague. I'm keeping an eye out and testing the waters a bit, but I'm not acting too heavily on baseless slander.
I think that's valid, but from what I've seen, it mostly relates to Western propaganda against China.
I don't trust the US or Chinese governments, really, but I can at least admit from a Western perspective, a lot of stuff promoted about China is propaganda, and I don't disagree with the admins that it can be perceived as "racist." I agree with the admins on that and it seems that is mostly where the accusations lie, with them supporting China. I think that's fair and China is just as full of actual real humans (actually more) than the US and other Western nations. Painting all US citizens or all Chinese citizens with a broad brush isn't acceptable. Valid critiques of their government should be, but a lot of Western critiques can often (and should) be dismissed as not valid, highly propagandist, or even racist.
Example: US people complaining about China's "Social Credit Score" while having no issues with the US "Economic Credit Score" even though they achieve similar goals.
Anyway, that's what I've seen. People post something that's anti-China from a Western perspective and admins remove it.
Also, "if you don't agree you can gtfo" is kind of the entire point of federation. You can always choose another instance that these guys don't run. I think that's an entirely valid attitude, and it's one that allows the Fediverse to grow instead of stagnate on one server.
If you don't agree with our opinion on how a server should be run. Which is very different from "if you don't agree with our political views". It's not clear which they mean.
So I'm still very interested in their opinion on how a server should be run. If that's sufficient then I shouldn't need to be concerned with their political views.
I’ve no idea, but there’s more than one dev.
Does it actually matter though?
For me it doesn't matter for lemmy as a whole. But if there is any truth to it, I want nothing with the instances that are administrated by these guys.
They manage lemmy.ml. As long as you are not there, they have nothing to do with you.
They're allowed their opinions, as long as they're not forcing them on others.
Being open to discussion works both ways. If their intention is to make an echo chamber, it won't reach very far.
Some of the core devs, who also run lemmy.ml, are tankies. That being said, it's an open standard and most of the popular instances are very against that mindset. The beauty and difficulty of an open, decentralized platform is that every instance can set their own ground rules and decide who to federate with.