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The Democracy of the founding fathers was Greek Democracy, predicated upon a slave society, and restricted to only the elite. This is the society we live in today, even with our reforms towards direct representation. The system is inherently biased towards the election of elites and against the representation of the masses. Hamilton called it “faction” when the working class got together and demanded better conditions, and mechanisms were built in (which still exist to this day) that serve to ensure the continued dominance of the elite over the masses. The suffering of the many is intentional. The opulence of the wealthy is also. This is the intended outcome.

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[–] BartsBigBugBag@lemmy.tf 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Capitalism has been dominant for over 4 centuries, and has murdered hundreds of millions of people in that time to maintain its dominance. It’s not only resistant to change, it actively kills those who try to change it for the better.

The healthcare system despite its centuries of reforms still serves the needs of the wealthy over the needs of the many. Even in countries with socialized healthcare but capitalist economics, elites are able to use their wealth to purchase higher quality of care than the average persons. Not to mention that those systems are being strangled to death the world over by governments in service of wealth, including the biggest success stories, the UK, and Canada.

In my country, it was never even reformed, and millions of people still have absolutely no way to receive healthcare without bankrupting themselves.

The concessions won are slowly taken away, bit by bit. We installed the 40 hour week and minimum wage as a de facto living wage and maximum working time. How many people work 60 hours today and still don’t have living wages? Because the concessions were just that, concessions, and as such, they can and are taken away as soon as it inconveniences the ruling class. Child labor laws are being stripped, because they’re inconvenient to those who seek to profit off of it. Socialized Healthcare systems are being dismantled, because they’re inconvenient for those who wish to profit off of it. Every area where we have won concessions has experienced a rollback when those concessions are maintained by a capitalist run state.

Its naive to think that you will be able to reform a system predicated on mass exploitation for most and orgiastic privilege for others to somehow be equitable while maintaining the private property systems at the root of all of the issues with it.

[–] Machindo@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thank you for saying this. ❤️

I do not understand people apologizing for capitalism ever.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's been around for four centuries as the dominant form of resource allocation and is thus also responsible for most of the western world's relatively high standard of living, and increasingly the rest of the world.

Im not defending it whole hog, but it's absurd to not be able to understand it's appeal.

[–] BartsBigBugBag@lemmy.tf 3 points 1 year ago

Capitalism was an important development in humankind that indeed increased the productive capacity of the world in many meaningful and positive ways. It has outlived its usefulness though, and now serves to prevent the kind of meaningful change needed to tackle 21st century problems.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How the hell do you have the time for this? If you add together all your comments, you've basically written an essay arguing with strangers on the Internet.

Get a hobby, FFS.

[–] BartsBigBugBag@lemmy.tf 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You posted the same comment twice.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] BartsBigBugBag@lemmy.tf 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just letting you know, since it’s typically considered a faux pas.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How the hell do you have the time for this? If you add together all your comments, you've basically written an essay arguing with strangers on the Internet.

Get a hobby, FFS.

[–] BartsBigBugBag@lemmy.tf 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I have multiple. I work out for an hour a day, learn Chinese for an hour a day, do martial arts for 3 hours a week, read around 100 books a year, play every new video game that I want to, hike about twice a month, woodwork, 3d print and design my own 3d models to print, solder professionally as a side job, and all this while working a full time job in robotics and helping to take care of my young family members. Maybe you just have poor time management skills.