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Image description: a screenshot from the Wikipedia page for the Doctor Who TV series, with a user-added caption that reads "Preserve the media you can before it's gone forever." The Wikipedia article reads, "No 1960s episodes exist on their original videotapes (all surviving prints being film transfers), though some were transferred to film for editing before transmission and exist in their broadcast form. [88] Some episodes have been returned to the BBC from the archives of other countries that bought prints for broadcast or by private individuals who acquired them by various means. Early colour videotape recordings made off-air by fans have also been retrieved, as well as excerpts filmed from the television screen onto 8 mm cine film and clips that were shown on other programmes. Audio versions of all lost episodes exist from home viewers who made tape recordings of the show. Short clips from every story with the exception of Marco Polo (1964), "Mission to the Unknown" (1965) and The Massacre (1966) also exist."

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[–] Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de 32 points 10 months ago (2 children)

While I agree that piracy can be preservation of media, it's most often not the case.

Streaming torrents directly or through real-debrid doesn't help preserve media at all. Leeching only without keeping torrents alive also doesn't keep media accessible.

Some people might store media for a few decades and then reupload, but most people never create new torrents.

I'd say the pirates who help preserve media are a small subset of pirates.

[–] sir_reginald@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago (1 children)

read OP's post. if it not were for privacy in the first place and people ripping media, there wouldn't be any copy left of those shows.

Of course not all pirates archive, but there's an important percentage that do. Non-pirates are running out of options because each year less and less audiovisual productions release as physical media (old DVDs, more recently blue rays) and are only available through a subscription model where you do not own the actual content.

So piracy is pretty much the only route available to archive a lot of content.

[–] Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 10 months ago

You're right, piracy is often the only way to archive media. Many releases aren't available on BluRay in all regions. It's thanks to those people who go through the trouble and rip media.

I meant to comment above on how not all piracy helps preserve media.

[–] HumanPerson@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I can't tell if you are saying only ripping content helps preserve it or that seeding does too. I download things but seed them as long as possible. (Technically until I run out of disk space, but that hasn't happened yet and I think I will upgrade before it does.) Considering how many pirates download things and keep seeding, I think the pirates that don't help preserve stuff could be the minority.

[–] Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 10 months ago

Seeding definitely helps preserve media. My comment meant to say that many people pirate media without seeding like ddl, usenet or leeching on public trackers. E.g. because they don't have good upload or not enough storage.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 1 points 10 months ago

The problem with BitTorrent is that seeding libraries usually don't survive a change or upgrade of the client, you'd have to find all the original .torrents and point the client at the right folders, praying it doesn't overwrite the with empty files for some reason.