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[–] bloopernova@programming.dev 140 points 1 year ago (4 children)

He sounds like some upper level management I've known. "Why does this cost so much, you're just displaying a couple of web pages? Backups? Disaster Recovery? Bandwidth charges? What are those?"

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 110 points 1 year ago (3 children)

He sounds like the kind of guy that was shutting down random servers and firing people until things visibly stopped working.

[–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 36 points 1 year ago

Only a true business genius could come up with an idea like that!

[–] guyrocket@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You would think that to lead an IT organization you should know something about IT.

Sadly, management cluetards "think" otherwise. And Musk the fool is leading the charge into oblivion.

[–] Zitronensaft@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't think you necessarily need to know about the IT aspect if you have enough knowledge in some of the other aspects of running the business. However, if you don't know the IT aspects, you should absolutely have a right hand person who is very familiar with the IT aspects and manages that and updates you on that side of things.

Musk has fired enough people who voiced criticism that I think he is only left with yes-men, not experts who can freely offer meaningful guidance and be taken seriously.

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

He is literally that guy

[–] YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A sales exec at a place I worked at, asked me how companies like Apple made their products look so so much more professional than ours. Umm, billions of dollars in revenue and hundreds, if not thousands, of developers and artists, I replied. Yeah he wasn’t the sharpest crayon in the box and I’m glad he retired where he couldn’t cause any more damage.

[–] Bldck@beehaw.org 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

“Make it look like google.”

Sure. Do you have a billion dollars for this project? No? Okay. You get one half resource junior UI designer.

[–] ApexHunter@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Don't forget to mention said resource was unable to get hired at a job that paid better than your company.... (which, no offense, isn't likely to be very good if you're having this kind of conversation)

[–] Bldck@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago

We tended to have very expensive engineers and very cheap designers. That was emblematic of where customers placed their value and, thus, where management placed their priority in hiring.

That said, of the four designers… one went to NASA, one went to Amazon, one went to McDonald’s (leading global service design research) and then to Lyft.

They were very talented folks

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The UI design of Google isn't very hard to emulate, even by a junior frontend developer. It's the backend that's the really compel stuff.

[–] Bldck@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago

I think you’re vastly underestimating the amount of research and work that goes into making Google products so easy to use.

UI isn’t just a front end development mashing their keyboard with HTML, CSS and JS. It’s hours and hours of observation, research, prototyping, pattern identification, prioritization of information, experimentation and then you create a simple white screen with one input box that does a million things.

[–] intelati@programming.dev 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The insane thing to me is that even if MediaWiki shut down completely with no warning, I bet we wouldn't lose anything. We got people backing it up instantly

But you would need a new foundation, or those copies will stop being collaboratively updated. In addition, it would be difficult for people to access the information again, without a new website.