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alt texttweet by Johann Hari: The core of addiction is not wanting to be present in life, because pour life is too painful a place to be. This is why imposing more pain or punishment on a person with an addiction problem actually makes their addiction worse.

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[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You just can't grow stimulants in most states. Go grow a field of Coca or Khat, good luck unless you live in like Florida or Southern border states. I guess you could grow poppy, but the landmass to output ratio is insane unless you chemically alter the opium. And at that point you might as well just grow thebaine yields and find a chemist.

[–] abraxas@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think you're agreeing with me, here? It seems like you meant to reply to a comment below or beside mine, very similar to what I posted but not a direct response.

But yeah... the fact that you can't make most drugs is why decriminalizing will empower organized crime.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Just expanding on why it won't work. People often think you can just take a coca plant and stick it in Michigan or whatever soil and expect it to grow during the summer season. Or they think a greenhouse will magically solve the problem. You would need a huge grow operation and even with current illicit prices I am not sure you would make a profit with the amount of power it would take.

[–] Welt@lazysoci.al 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Coca needs equatorial latitudes and high altitudes, so even the Mexican mountains probably don't grow it that well. I've long thought the New Guinean highlands would be a great place to grow coca. As for khat, it should be growable in the southwest US.

[–] abraxas@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

I don't know Coca very well, but I have known marijuana growers and the lengths they're willing to go for their crops even now suggests to me coca could be profitable. I knew a guy a few years ago who had a license to wholesale (whatever they call it) in his own state. Small warehouse that's fully temperature and humidity-controlled with grow lights, with a carbon dioxide injection system. His electric bills were massive, but his profit margins were more than sufficient.

Would you say cocaine has tighter margins than pot? I would believe that maybe, but I don't know for a fact.