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[–] alienanimals@lemmy.world 89 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Fines need to scale with the net worth of the person, otherwise they only impact poor people.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That wouldn't be very effective. Trump's net worth is a function of his mood.

[–] JonEFive@midwest.social 12 points 1 year ago

And the capabilities of whoever he has cooking the books for that particular transaction.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Well, if it doubles every time, it shouldn't take too long to reach the point where he can't pay...

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Fines Doubled

  • $5k
  • $10k
  • $20k
  • $40k
  • $80k
  • $160k
  • $320k
  • $640k
  • $1,208m
  • $2,560m
  • $5,120m
  • $10,240m
  • $20,480m
  • $40,960m
  • $81,920m
  • $163,840m
  • $327,680m
  • $655,360m
  • $1,310,750b

It would take Trump 19 times violating the gag order before hitting a billion dollars. Even if you add up the fines cumulatively, it would take 18 times before Trump had to pay over a billion dollars. A poor person would be crippled by the first fine.

Edit: Counting is hard.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You still believe the guy is a billionaire?

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 1 year ago

Would I be shocked that Trump had a billion dollars stashed away in various off shore bank accounts. No.

Would I be shocked that Trump didn't have two pennies to rub and was doing all this grifting to stay afloat. No.

Trump lies so much about his wealth. I would wager that Trump is only a multi-millionaire at best. Again, Trump grift game is pretty good and doesn't seem to pay his debts.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah it would. He'd have to violate it 10 times for the doubling to even pass one hundredth of a billion.

Sounds like you're severely underestimating the vast gulf between 10,000 and however many billions his creditors are allowing him to have.

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He's not remotely a billionaire. His whole life is a lie. Everything he's connected with is over valued and he has a ton of debt. He's a flim flam man, not a billionaire.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

He's a fraud with a negative net worth but due to said fraud and his organised crime and rogue nations connections, billions are still made available for him

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

I agree completely. Problem is that it's not an oversight, it's by design. They made it like this and keep it like this on purpose.

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He's worthless. His asset value is a lie and he has tremendous debt.

He should be in jail.