this post was submitted on 24 Oct 2023
373 points (87.1% liked)
traaaaaaannnnnnnnnns
2809 readers
1 users here now
Rules
1.) No bigotry of any kind, and don't be a jerk either
• Bigotry includes but is not limited to: ableism, casteism, homophobia, lookism, queerphobia, racism, sexism, transphobia, and xenophobia. Bigotry towards non-binary people is transphobia. Truscum rhetoric is also bigotry. You getting punished for your hateful opinion, however, is not bigotry.
2.) No Spam
• This includes both advertising and breaking your or my Lemmy instance's rules, such as vote manipulation or brigading.
3.) Posts must have something to do with being trans, or about trans experiences
• Try to stay away from negative political events too. You can joke about it, but bringing attention to something bad happening in the world might take someone out of their comfort zone— this is an escape from the constant news cycle for some.
4.) No Selfies or Character Creations
• Selfies are not memes! This is not a community for selfies. Picrews and other character creations such as Sims and Mii's are considered bandwagoning, and perhaps can be a part of a different community.
5.) SFW-only
• This is an all ages community, so we prefer it if you take the NSFW stuff to one of the more adult oriented communities. Note: nudity is not allowed, we want everybody to be comfortable here.
6.) Submissions must be a meme or they will be removed
7.) Swearing is fine, but slurs are not
• We want everybody to feel safe and comfortable here, so even if you want to reclaim a pejorative word that applies to you— we ask that you don't, as this is a light-hearted community and others stumbling across your post might feel unsafe.
8.) Embedded submissions should only link to trusted image sharing sites, no IP grabbers or link shorteners
9.) Use but don't misuse the report button
• If something breaks these rules, or this Lemmy instance's rules, please report it.
10.) Please do not link to any terf, racist, or any other hate communities or forums
• Bigots like those do not deserve any attention. Any post or comment linking to a hate community or forum will be removed
11.) Don't be a jerk nor a troll
• Be nice, and don't create social chaos. That's it. Pretty simple, huh?
Some notes:
1.) We highly encourage you to use alt text in your posts, so everybody can enjoy this community
2.) It would be really nice if you flaired your posts accordingly in the title
• For example, a meme about the non-binary experience could have a title like this: "[NB] Story of my life!" This will make searching for content much easier.
3.) Don't break the law
• This includes the country you live in as well as the country your instance is hosted in
Sibling forums:
!egg_irl
• Trans memes specifically about being closeted, unaware or in denial
!196
• Ordinary memes, but the community is very trans-accepting— and it only has one rule: when you encounter the page you must post a meme from your camera roll
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
Issues like this make me wonder: what’s acceptable to joke about now that future generations will find shameful? Any suggestions, folks?
Some people are starting to shift their opinions on it, but jokes about men being raped (especially in prison) are weirdly accepted.
I'd hope it'd be things relating to our treatment of non-human animals. There's a pretty good talk making that case (not so much in terms of jokes, but in general)
https://youtu.be/N6w3A7E1Hw8
I was thinking this binging The Boys recently. In universe apparently fish can communicate with each other and have feelings and shit, there is a dude who can talk to fish. But they also show a weird amount of casual fish abuse in relation to that character and in a way that sorta plays it for laughs. The Boys is already pretty satirical so I think the writers are doing it on purpose to satirize real life animal mistreatment but even still I'm not sure it's done that well as its still presented in a lot of scenes as a joke.
they do that because in the first episode SPOILER The Deep rapes the new superhero joining the team. and its found out hes done this countless times. so the show shits on him hard the rest of the way
The part I am criticizing is all the depictions of animal abuse surrounding the deep, mostly not being committed by him but characters around him. Like the show sorta plays it as a joke or something. Like he deserves to see all these fish that as far as he is concerned are thinking sentient people be abused around him because he is a rapist. And in later season he himself is raped. It's unclear what we are suppose to take away from his story line, is the animal abuse only he seems to care about suppose to be ok because he is a rapist? Or are we supposed to sympathize with him? the fish? It's just a bit of a mess.
I just think that aspect of the show could have been done better.. the deep in general is kinda one of the worst characters in the show imo, by s3 his story line barely even intersects the main plot.
Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
https://piped.video/N6w3A7E1Hw8
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.
Another good one! Thanks!
I'm going to hope it's about wanting to kill ourselves all the time, because if it becomes taboo I hope it's because we have actually managed to make life better and thus suicide rates drop, but I honestly don't know if we will get any better tbh
“There are no taboos against taking one’s life here,’ said the Night Haunter. ‘Many do. This is not a happy world. But it can be a better one. By killing yourself, you take the easy way out, you encourage others to do the same. You might think you add yourself to a statistic, but your self-murder is much more than that. Every suicide adds to the rot weakening your culture. Every life abandoned is a signal that change can never be effected. You throw your existence away, and in doing so lessen the value of humanity.”
Proceeds to de-skin suicidal woman slowly.
Heh, as someone who deals with suicidal ideation daily, our collective devaluation of humanity drives my disgust. While our planet burns, human civilizations embrace imminent extinction (and the irrelevance of all current culture) to preserve the current power hierarchy.
Nothing we do today will matter including those efforts to reduce the effects of a looming cataclysm and population correction until we collectively achieve a high threshold that significantly reduces its effects. Nothing in this case includes both my choice to kill myself and my choice to live another day.
This time doesn't matter until a huge number of us decide to collectively make it matter.
Quick question, what the fuck?
It’s warhammer 30K, and the person talking is Batman if he was a superhuman/angel designed specifically to be the best Batman possible.
Ooh, that’s a good one! Now I hope so, too!
You should be safe if you don't make fun of others. It's not necessary to ridicule a specific person or group to make a joke.
True. Generally speaking, punching down is not okay.
Who is considered weird and or crazy?
That’s what I have a hard time with. Antivaxxers? Trump supporters? Callous billionaires? They all seem like fair game to me.
Science deniers and right wingers has never been on the right side of the history, so these you mentioned will be remembered as the idiots they are, and Billionaires will continue to exist but will be remembered but not in the Star Trek name dropping Elon Musk kind of way, but in the way we remember other idiotic and callous billionares from a century ago.
In the case of previous groups, it's usually persecuted and marginalized groups. So I don't think that fits.
I'm already seeing terms like "stupid", "dumb", "crazy" and other terms to refer to conditions people didn't choose, especially mental ones, being used less and frowned upon occasionally. So maybe "crazy/insane" if we actually recognize it wildly as an issue or treat it.
Online? I'm seeing a lot more hate and memes against furries cropping up that I hope goes away. Not that that's new, but I think it's shifting towards them since it's become unacceptable in most circles to denigrate sexual and gender identities.
Otherwise I think the question is: Who is society denigrating that is both a marginalized group and not actively/actually harmful?
The thing with stupid/crazy is inevitably a euphemism treadmill more than any meaningful shift. We still need to deal with people who make absolutely terrible decisions in ways that are both shockingly unexpected and predictably exploitable. Calling those people "wild" instead of the r-word won't change that they dislocated their skeleton doing some obviously pointless stunt for momentary clout.
Furries is a good one. There's definitely a lot of hate. "My coworker's daughter said they were talking about putting litter boxes in the classrooms!"
Weird fetishes like foot and diapers perhaps?
Think about the words you and other people use and what they actually mean. Are you using a word that refers to a certain group of people who are part of some marginalised group? “Gay” used to be a very common insult, particularly in South Park. What about “lame”, “dumb”, “tard”, etc.
Go in the future long enough and jokes about cis white males are gonna look really hurtful. Trying to attack Patriarchy and hitting the individual instead.
Something that is right now still in the closet.
I've only got skeletons and a broom in mine.
Well then I've got a bonne to pick with you. And don't try to sweep it all under the rug!
Going to throw this out there: self identification as a member of racial/ethnic/cultural group will become a hot button. Right now the left screams "cultural appropriation!" when this happens. But appropriating another gender is somehow okay. There's a real mismatch here in logic, and at some point in the future this will flip. Like, currently it's okay for me to say "I identify as a woman" but not "I identify as a black woman". How does that even make sense?
I think that's mostly an American thing: they think that their “racial” categories are the same thing as ethnicity, and since race is defined by racists (who believe that it's an innate inherited trait), it's constrained by them too.
“I was born French, but now I consider myself Corsican.” is an uncommon but perfectly normal thing in Europe.
American racism is just absurd, even by racism standards. That absurdity even influences American anti-racism.
Good question. Men and women generally have radically different traditional roles, limitations, stereotypes, and expectations. The same can be said of white people and Black people. So, why is it okay to identify as one but not the other?
Most questions I see involving identity aren’t asked in good faith, but this is an interesting one. Granted, it’s probably been addressed repeatedly, but I haven’t come across it before.