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So far Lemmy is vibing. Everyone here is excited and optimistic and willing to put up with a few rough spots to be part of something.

When the Eternal September comes, which it will, how does a Lemmy instance deal with bad actors?

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[–] wit@lemmy.world 116 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Individual instances will have to moderate themselves. If they become chaotic, other instances should unfederate them. But as users, you should also subscribe to communities you think are behaving well and block users/communities that are not.

Also, I have seen some users who are "grabbing" as many communities as possible, namely @Hurts@lemmy.world. Dude is moderating 60 communities, in an instance that started a few days ago.. He is not building the communities, he is just power tripping it seems. @ruud@ruud@lemmy.world, something might have to be done about that in the future. I suggest some sort of "requestcommunity", in which you can apply to become the mod of said community, if community is being badly run (or not run at all).

[–] Celsiuss@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago (3 children)

There should be a limit on how many communities you can create in a given time span

[–] vocornflakes@lemmy.world 118 points 1 year ago (3 children)

There should be a limit on how many communities you can run, period. This is how we got super-mods like GallowBoob on Reddit

[–] MrPoopyButthole@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I upvoted this post and I saw a popup "report created" this is not what I intended, I completely agree with this.

[–] fubo@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've seen spontaneous "report created" molesΒΉ as well. It's not clear to me that a report is actually being created; it seems like a UI bug.

[–] guy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mole? What's the difference between a mole and a toast?

[–] fubo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not sure. I'm not a frontend dev myself; "mole" was the term I heard from people who were.

[–] guy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Oh. I think they are most commonly called "toasts". Called such, because they pop up from the bottom like toast from a toaster. I've also heard them just referred to as "alerts" or "notifications", but I think that's a bit ambiguous. Android likes to call interactive ones "snack bars", which is kind of silly. "Moles" is new to me as a term for them, but I think it's quite fitting too, yeah, I like it

Oh phew, that happened to me earlier - I thought I had accidentally submitted a false report

[–] Mjb 15 points 1 year ago

And how does that stop them creating multiple accounts to multiply the limit? It doesn't.

[–] oryx@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Agreed on both of these. I made four within my first day or so, with three being pretty niche to very niche, and one with the potential to get large if Lemmy continues to grow. After I made that, I called it quits; I made new homes for my favorite Reddit communities and I know that's all I can likely handle if they take off.

[–] wit@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There should be a limit on how many communities you can create in a given time span

Yes, I thought of that, but then I am sure they would just create alt accounts to create as many communities as possible. I think the requesting of communities is still the best way. If one wants to be the mod of a community that already has a mod who is moding 50 other communities and is not doing jackshit..

[–] PropaGandalf@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

this. Ihateany "verification" or "request" process as somebody has to do it. But saying that you cant create more than x communities per month or y communities per yearwould pretty much solve the problem.

[–] ruud@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Will make a rule limiting number of communities per moderator or created per week or something like that. On the to do list.

[–] TheBananaKing@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Thanks for that - that's a big concern in any forum, and it's fantastic to see it addressed here :)

[–] theory@sopuli.xyz 30 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Unfederation should not be used so cavalierly. Instead, community blocks. I know many people that chose lemmy.world because it doesnt block anything and hope it stays that way.

[–] Ataraxia@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Agreed. I'd rather avoid individual communities instead of instances.

[–] veroxii@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Yeap chose lemmy.world because of the server experience. But I've already blocked the communities I don't want to see at a user level.

[–] scutiger@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What about the ability for users to block instances? I'm sure there's a way I'm not thinking of that this would be problematic.

[–] theory@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

Seems best to me

[–] Licensed_to_ill@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, I was going to say. I want to create communities from reddit that are not yet in here. But I don't want to be the one running it. On the other hand. I don't want a guy like that running a community I like. I would gladly create these communities and hand them over to proper mods later on if that's possible.

I'm not mod material.

It's absolutely possible. I already have a hundful of mods helping keep an eye on TIFU just a day after creating the community. There's definitely people willing to help things run smoothly.

[–] blade_imaginato@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same, I want r/collapse and r/climatechange to come to lemmy but I also do not want to be the one running the show. I'm way too inactive regularly for that.

!collapse@lemmy.ml

[–] Luvs2Spuj@beehaw.org 17 points 1 year ago

Isn't this the situation on Reddit, all the big subs moderated by a handful of people? I remember blocking them all years ago.

This is such a good find and 100% something that should be look at. Sorry, I'm also not mod material and can't chip in (with time)

[–] deltec@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah we don't need supermods here