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Huh, I've always seen people recommend learning PLL before OLL. Hope that's going well for you, anyway. I'd recommend you learn algs that work well for you rather than whatever your source suggests (check some algs out over on algdb.net).
Also, you may want to check out the Speedsolving Forums. I've used them and here to supplement my lack of visiting the cubing subreddit.
Thanks for the algdb.net link, looks like a good site. I'm using https://www.speedcubedb.com/a/3x3/OLL atm because I like that it tells you how to set the alg up too, but I've bookmarked your link.
There's this https://www.reddit.com/r/Cubers/comments/tygask/learn_oll_the_easy_way/?share_id=d53oqI0G9XwOvG9JN9kXi&utm_content=1&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1&rdt=32907
Which is a great little resource, just a pity it's on Reddit.
OLL seemed to make more sense to me because I already know some of them, and the rest seem to be variations of them, so I just need to remember that THIS case does this, but if it looks like THAT then I vary it like THIS.
PLL just makes my brain hurt, hopefully OLL will help with that.
Seems like that link has been saved in wayback machine: https://web.archive.org/web/20220407160539/https://www.reddit.com/r/Cubers/comments/tygask/learn_oll_the_easy_way/
just for backup or if we don't want to go back to reddit
Hey thanks that's great, I've just gone and saved that to my home screen on my phone.
Also it may not be as active in here but my original intention was to stir up some activity and it seems to have worked. I've talked more about Cubing this week than ever before and that is good enough for me.
I didn't know about this site and, just from skimming it a bit, I'm impressed. I've just come back to cubing after a 3-year long pause and didn't catch up with the times, so thanks for the link, I've bookmarked it also.
Yeah, sucks to be a cuber and wanting to be away from Reddit, because the r/cubers sub was actually one of my favorites.
It definitely will. Some PLLs are just combinations of shorter OLLs (take the T perm, which is a sequence of a T OLL and a fish-shape OLL), so it'll definitely help you out. Also, the fact that there're way fewer algs in the PLL set will make it a breeze (hopefully) after you grind through OLL, so maybe that'll help out your motivation. Still, I think it's a bit odd to learn OLL first, but it seems fine and even good now that I think about it.
Yeah the speedcube db is great because it's all in sections so you can pick say Fish Shapes and just concentrate on them.
As for PLL or OLL first debate, I'm already doing 2 look so the idea is to get down slowly to 1 look. I keep going back to Guitar analogies and it doesn't really matter the order on Guitar that you learn once you have a solid foundation. I really am treating Cubing the same way.
When I get bored of OLL I'll go to PLL and switch back again. It's a way of staving off the boredom while teaching my muscle memory.
I'm already at a point where I'm getting a little frustrated at forgetting some OLLs so it won't be long. Thanks to you I'm learning T perm first