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All the news headlines and verdict said sexual abuse, which was kind of vague, but I just found out today that the judge clarified that this was a matter of legal definition and by the verdict of the trial and the case, trump has been found guilty of penetrative rape.

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[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 48 points 1 year ago (18 children)

I thought about that, but since guilty isn't only a legal term and commonly implies responsibility for wrongdoing in general and the judge is clarifying trump is responsible for raping carroll regardless of the legal term used, naming his guilt is appropriate and perfectly accurate.

[–] fubo@lemmy.world 75 points 1 year ago (14 children)

He is guilty in the ordinary sense. But "found guilty" is technical vocabulary for criminal courts.

[–] sic_1@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Why is he not in jail then? Crimes like these shouldn't be possible to change with a fine or whatever.

[–] Afghaniscran 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I haven't been following this tbh since I'm not American but I did read another comment that said something about the statute of limitations so maybe criminal charges can't be brought due to that weird part of the law where rape gets an expiry date.

[–] Kepabar@startrek.website 7 points 1 year ago

Correct, the state passed a law allowing those cases where statue of limitations have been passed for criminal trails to still sue their attacker in civil court.

It's been suggested this was passed specifically to target Trump, but a good number of sexual assaults never go reported and I believe a few hundred cases have come from this law.

It has since expired, it was only valid for one year.

[–] Whirlybird@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

He would never have been charged criminally because of the lack of evidence. It’s quite honestly absurd that he lost this case based on the lack of evidence. I mean she literally can’t even name a year that this life changing event supposedly happened.

I’m sure Donald Trump is a sex pest, his “grab em by the pussy” speech and various other comments all but assure that, but this case was absurd.

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