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[–] fosforus@sopuli.xyz -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why did crime and overdosing go up everywhere then? I'm for legalization, but that seems a bit too coincidental to just ignore.

[–] bufordt@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Crime and overdoses went up across the country, not just in states where drugs were decriminalized.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In addition to the other poster's clarification, I'd also like to add that even if it was related to the drugs, IMO "banning things that can be related to criminal behavior" isn't the move.

Alcohol is a prime example of this, as in the meme. People often make bad decisions related to it, sometimes like driving, sometimes even cold blooded murder, and they can die from it as well, alcohol poisoning, cirrhosis, you can even die from the withdrawls, but that doesn't mean that I shouldn't be able to enjoy a beer or two after a long shift at work on a hot ass day.

Similarly, while true that people can overdose on heroin, or can commit crimes to get it, it isn't necessarily right for me to tell you that you can't use it if you want, just don't commit those crimes or you will be punished.

Frankly, though you can't overdose, I've known people who stole to get video games, comics, records, etc, just other normal worldly possessions they wanted more than they had morals. The same crime happened with no drugs involved. Does that mean we need to ban alcohol, comics, records, games, anything people steal ever? No, because that is silly, "don't steal" covers it regardless of motivation for theft, IMO "because crime can be done with/for it" is a pisspoor reasoning for banning something.