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[–] 13esq@lemmy.world -4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (8 children)

I'd put food addiction under mental health issues which I did say I empathise with, but these are a minority of cases. Not every fat person is food addicted.

It is easy. There's nothing hard about recognising that you're overweight and then looking at the amount of food on your plates and saying "from now on I'll have 20% less than that", then weighing yourself a few months after that to measure your progress and adjusting the amount you eat further if necessary. You do not need a PhD in food science or biology, nor do you need the will power of the most mentally strong human that's ever lived to be able to commit to eating a bit less.

[–] AkumaFoxwell@feddit.de 8 points 11 months ago (6 children)

I’d put food addiction under mental health issues which I did say I empathise with, but these are a minority of cases.

As far as I know, it's a lot more than just a minority, but if you have a source and information I'm not aware of, please share. Always eager to learn.

For the sake of our discussion, let's assume you're right and mental health reasons are just a negligible minority. There's also an obesity pandemic going on right now in most of the (western) world. Has been for a while, I hope we can agree on that.

So, if there's an obesity pandemic going on, but losing weight is simple and easy, and it's not majorly mental health reasons, I gotta ask: Why are people overweight/fat/obese? Do you think people want to be fat? What's your point here?

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com -1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Because most people are lazy and or stupid and don't want to make the effort to do the things they need to do even more than they don't want to be fat. Every single fat person I know over eats at every meal and is always snacking and even when they do try to diet they give themselves tons of cheat days and fuck themselves over. It's as simple as eating less calories than you need but they can't manage it because they've trained their bodies to expect them to be constantly cramming garbage down their gullet and if they don't they're hungry all the time which is apparently impossible to deal with for them because they have no willpower.

[–] AkumaFoxwell@feddit.de 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It’s as simple as eating less calories than you need

Agreed. It's simple. But simple is not necessarily easy. There's a difference.

but they can’t manage it because they’ve trained their bodies to expect them to be constantly cramming garbage down their gullet

Sounds a hell of a lot like an addiction to me.

[...] lazy and or stupid and don’t want to make the effort [...] cramming garbage down their gullet [...] they have no willpower

Your entire response is filled with vitriol. You attribute a serious problem that has become a pandemic to an individual personal fault rather than acknowledge there might be a systemic problem, which leads me to believe that not only do you hate or despise overweight people, but you put them down to make yourself feel superior.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It is almost always an individual fault. Just happens to be a fuckload of individuals who are faulty. Then they go online and make excuses for each other instead of trying to improve themselves. Why shouldn't I despise them? If they lack the willpower to control their eating because it's difficult what other failings are they going to be willing to forgive themselves for?

[–] Cookiesandcreamclouds@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Yeah, nobody forces them to go to McDonald's every day after work.

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