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Nuclear energy is backed by big business and a lot of money. It’s a big cash cow and there is a lot of money and effort spent to manufacture public support for it, and they use troll farms to push their agenda, no doubt. Am I the only one that finds it a little suspicious that it’s always the same few talking points whenever the topic is mentioned? Whenever there’s a discussion about investing in renewable energy, there are always nuke bros popping up, bombarding the thread, derailing the discussion.
but this isn't a discussion about renewables, the topic is Slovenia's new nuclear plant which they're building to end coal consumption for power generation.
in fact, what you describe is exactly what is happening here to nuclear
So "You support X so you must be in the pocket of big business! But I support Y and I'm innocent and pure."? I find the same talking points with solar and wind too.
It's weird that every time you read about nuclear power the truth hasn't changed? Do you also find it suspicious that every time math is discussed 1+1 continues to equal 2? Perhaps Big Business (who?) are employing troll farms whenever the topic is mentioned?
Funny how you equate 1+1=2 with the fairy tales totally unironically talked about regarding nuclear power and renewables constantly.
The simple truth is: Countries in Europe planning to build nuclear are failing their energy transition right now. Because none is building enough capacity to cover just the minimal base load for the projected demand in ~2 decades (that will massively increase because of electrification/decarbonisation). Why don't they plan enough? Because no one knows how to even foot that bill. (PS: France is close if they actually build 14 new big reactors... not the 6 they are openly talking about with 8 optional ones - the full set of 14. But even in basically THE nuclear country in Europe you can't tell the population honestly how massive the required investions are.) That is actually simply math...
I agree with the "simple truth" EU governments are planning infrastructure based on profitability and not on actual needs. The result is that coal use will continue to increase, renewables will be "scaled back" and a few thousand people will get richer in exchange for the destruction of the environment and eventually massive die-offs of not only plants and animals, but humans too.
When you are a government, the "bill" doesn't actually matter. The amount of money building a nuclear reactor costs is trivial compared to the size of these economies. Germany is almost 5trillion, France is almost 3trillion. If a nuclear raector after all it's cost overruns and other shit cost 1Billion a year for 10years to build that is 1/3rd of %0.01 of Frances GDP. The money exists, the prioritization does not.
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