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youtube getting more aggressive.. i've got firefox and ublock but this shit is still coming up

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[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 288 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Get Firefox, install uBlock Origin, clear the filter cache, and reload the filter cache.

Worked for me and my dad

It is time to stop the Chrome plauge.

[–] Goodie@lemmy.world 161 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's currently working, but every few days youtube will tweak something, and sometime later (minutes to hours) there will be an ublock update for it.

Sometimes you have to wait a little longer, but this is the arms race.

[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 68 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I find it funny that a company as big as Google is loosing to little ol uBlock

[–] Goodie@lemmy.world 62 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's often far easier to attack than defend.

Google has to find and block every way, ublock just has to make a new way to bypass the blocks.

[–] glorious_albus@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Classic mantra of cybersecurity. "We've up be right every time, they've to be right only once."

[–] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They're working on a final solution to the ad blocker problem. If they're successful in pushing their Web Environment Integrity API, there's nothing Firefox or ublock will be able to do.

[–] Vendul@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago

EU as the final boss battle

[–] Kodemystic@lemmy.kodemystic.dev 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

What about piped like solutions hostux, invidious etc? How do they work? Is it through API? Can Google block it like reddit did theirs? Also if google is so concerned about ad blockers why do they allow those extensions in their Chrome store? I thinks its going to get really tough to get Youtube for free without ads. Eventually Youtube might become something like Netflix or something.

[–] TauZero@mander.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

Piped/invidious work by scrapping the video chunks directly from google and proxying them through volunteer servers. They will stop working as soon as google gets around to locking down the APIs that they are abusing, or blocks their server IPs.

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I find it funny

I'm not having any fun. How dare they! With all the evil virus attacks nowadays and most of them starting through online ads, using an adblocker is a matter of security. And it is my decision, not theirs. None of their business.

[–] Johanno@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

Especially funny since blocking ublock is illegal in the EU

[–] charonn0@startrek.website 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Goodie@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I might read the article later, but your thesis is right.

This isn't a arms race, it's also convenience race.

Is it more convenient for me to turn off ublock, or go through ublocks menus and update its filters? Do I dislike ads that much? Maybe I do, maybe I don't. But some people will turn off their adblock of choice, even if it technically still works if you update it. Their conversion rate of viewer to ad consumer will (probably) go up.

[–] charonn0@startrek.website 2 points 1 year ago

It's worth the read. I really only posted it because you have to respect the technical prowess involved. Also it's kind of funny.

[–] tiita@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

yep.. i did. they keep coming up, somehow. very annoying.

[–] tyrant@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

I switched over to piped.video and no ads. Just moved my subscriptions over. Not sure how long it will last but so far it's good

[–] Denvil@lemmy.one 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If that doesn't work, get the youtube enhancer extension. Turn off it's built in adblock. You'll have a bunch of buttons on the bottom of the video, one of which is remove ads, which becomes skip ads when an ad plays. You will still get ads, but you'll be able to instantly skip them all without setting off their adblock detector. (Ps, to get the bar in fullscreen, set it to bottom of window)

[–] creditCrazy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Huh I might try some ytenhancer only sessions to keep a eye on how bad eds have been getting without having to waste my time

[–] theKalash@feddit.ch 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yet, I've not gotten any of these messages on Chrome + uBlock Origin so far.

[–] HuddaBudda@kbin.social 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They are probably hitting people in waves, in an effort to make sure this isn't a surge, then a massive protest like the Unity situation.

But once google realizes they'll have to burn serious money and make their product worse on the global stage to fix the problem, they'll quit just like Microsoft, AOL, and Netscape.

But I think this campaign is just there to loosen the people who installed an ad-block, but have no idea what an ad-block is.

Which will be different from the people who know about "alternate methods," and will easily slip the google net unnoticed.

[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago

It's more like field testing the change than managing backlash. They go somewhat hand-in-hand, but the intention Google has is mainly to reduce false positives.

[–] Blamemeta@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That didn't work for me. Seems theyre still detecting it.

[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Updating uBlock and filters has a bigger Impact than choice of browser. You could be situated in one of the data clusters that implement new detection methods first, so the filter lists are not updated yet when they hit you with a changed detection script.

Also, if you use Enhancer for YT, disable the built-in ad blocking there. That feature triggers the pop-up as well.

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 year ago

I feel like all of these suggestions will have short lifespans.

There is no good replacement for YouTube currently, but ultimately a long term solution means replacing the service.

A long(er) term solution than little hacks with FF and ublock are things like piped.