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[–] Lionir@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Genocide is the intentional destruction of a people[a] in whole or in part. In 1948, the United Nations Genocide Convention defined genocide as any of five “acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group.” These five acts were: killing members of the group, causing them serious bodily or mental harm, imposing living conditions intended to destroy the group, preventing births, and forcibly transferring children out of the group. Victims are targeted because of their real or perceived membership of a group, not randomly.[1][2]

Spreading an ideology according to which one shouldn’t have kids, thus preventing births, would fall into this definition.

Even with this extended definition, your argument fails the most important criteria for genocide wtih the UN definition which is:

intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group.

And it also fails to mention that the argument being made is voluntary and so it wouldn't fall under the act of :

preventing births

[–] Colombo@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even with this extended definition, your argument fails the most important criteria for genocide with the UN definition which is:

The intent is always hard to prove. But I am glad that you agree that the only difference would be the intent ;)

Yet, if you read about some cases, you might see that the intent was not always proven or obvious, and some cases are considered genocide even without intent. For instance, take Holodomor, which is being more and more recognized as a genocide, even though unintentional. But I am happy to talk about other cases.

[–] Lionir@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago

Let's remind ourselves that this is one person suggesting to not have kids on an online forum. Unless you're actually saying they have the intent or even a reason to believe they are targeting a specific demographic, this does not qualify nor is it close to qualifying to the definition of genocidee you gave.