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[–] hcbxzz@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Perhaps a controversial opinion here, but the usefulness of reversibility is vastly overrated. It's not a game changer, just a tiny first-world luxury that's nice to have, but it does it by introducing a bunch of unnecessary complexity that I'd rather avoid. Not worth the trade off IMO. I can count on one hand the number of minutes USB-C has saved me by being reversible and I honestly don't care

[–] Ejh3k@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm happier with how long usb c last before they start getting finicky than I am the reversiblity.

[–] hcbxzz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

In theory, USB-C should be better, but in practice, the quality control is all over the place.

All of my micro USB cables and ports have lasted just fine. I used one daily with my phone for 10+ years with no issues, and I've only had maybe two cables ever actually fail. Meanwhile, I've already had at least 5 USB-C cables or dongles that have fully failed, and plus the primary USB-C charging port on a laptop just completely die. I wish it was better, but it just isn't.

Also if USB-C was just replacing just micro USB I'd be ok with that. But the problem is they're also replacing USB-A, and Type C is not nearly as durable as Type A since it's so small, it's just physically impossible. I wish they made a larger version of the Type C port. Same shape, same pins, just bigger in every dimension. As large as Type A, for durability.

I'm not a big fan of Apple, but the lightning connector is just better, physically. It's way more durable in practice since it's just a solid piece. I wish USB-C was designed that way instead of what we actually got.

[–] Natanael@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] hcbxzz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

That's not going to get you Thunderbolt, mate

[–] dgriffith@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

USB C was designed so that the spring contacts that wear out/get damaged are in the relatively cheap cable, and the solid, more durable tang that the contacts slide on is in the expensive device.

Now let's have a look at Apple's design for their lightning connector...... hmm I wonder why they designed it like that?

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The issue is that USBC was the first standard to really take the mechanical design process seriously in a consumer context. In doing so, it was made both way more ergonomic and way more durable. I'd argue that without the focus on some of these "small but marketable" consumer-oriented bits, we would not have gotten the great overall connector design we did.

[–] hcbxzz@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m not a big fan of Apple, but the lightning connector is just better, physically. It’s way more durable in practice since it’s just a solid piece. I wish USB-C was designed that way instead of what we actually got.

[–] owatnext@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

If I recall correctly, Lightning connectors are designed in a way that makes the port more likely to wear out. USB-C is designed in a way that makes the cable more likely to wear out. I would rather replace my $5 charging cable than replace my $150 (or more!) phone.

[–] jackalope@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Engineering centric worldview versus user centric worldview.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I am just laughing here because I spent the day dealing with ancient serial tech pigtails and DB9s. You people have no idea the pain of losing multiple days of your life trying to get RS-232 to work. Especially when stuff doesn't follow the standards it is supposed to follow.

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes, you're right: that was controversial.