this post was submitted on 09 Oct 2023
166 points (98.3% liked)

Europe

8484 readers
3 users here now

News/Interesting Stories/Beautiful Pictures from Europe 🇪🇺

(Current banner: Thunder mountain, Germany, 🇩🇪 ) Feel free to post submissions for banner pictures

Rules

(This list is obviously incomplete, but it will get expanded when necessary)

  1. Be nice to each other (e.g. No direct insults against each other);
  2. No racism, antisemitism, dehumanisation of minorities or glorification of National Socialism allowed;
  3. No posts linking to mis-information funded by foreign states or billionaires.

Also check out !yurop@lemm.ee

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Erratic Deutsche Bahn services make our commutes a misery. Luckily, their meaningless announcements are an art form

My favourite excuse is an expression that might one day be emblematic of contemporary Germany. I hear Deutsche Bahn wants staff to stop using it, but it can’t banish it from our minds. Verzögerungen im Betriebsablauf – “operational delays” – is meaningful and meaningless in a way that only the German language allows. One day it might even become one of those golden words co-opted into the English language – like zeitgeist or schadenfreude. (Let’s retire Blitz, a word that is jaded and overused in sport, politics and beyond.)

Verzögerungen im Betriebsablauf is the magic phrase for not getting anywhere fast while also suggesting everything is full steam ahead. It is sinister in a beautiful way. It is a phrase Kafka might use if he were writing today, a perfect description of a situation where no one can do anything but everyone is busy.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 50 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Privatising infrastructure is stupid AF. It was part of the 90s Zeitgeist, which haunts us to this day.

[–] trollercoaster@feddit.de 14 points 1 year ago

And it was known to be stupid in the 1990s already. The only people who benefit from it are the investors. Everyone else pays for their dividend.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah privatization in general doesn’t work great. The only good arguments I’ve heard for private ownership is the initial investment portion.

[–] taladar@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago

It does work alright in some fields but it definitely does not work for natural monopolies like infrastructure (rail network, power, gas, internet/phone networks, cable, water, waste water,...) or for things people can't not choose to avoid buying (health care) or buy very infrequently (once or twice a life only).

[–] Melonpoly@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Japan seems to be one of the outliers were privatisation of their rail networks has worked out well.

[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Is Deutsche Bahn in private hands? It sounds like the same mistake that Thatcher made in the UK
Also why isnt competiton bringing the prices down?

[–] zaphod@feddit.de 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, it's not privatised, although currently organised as a joint-stock company (AG) with the state being the sole shareholder. But it was supposed to be privatised and made "profitable" starting in the 90s.

[–] taladar@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

They didn't control it very well though. DB AG did spend a lot of money on non-rail related expenses like the DB Schenker road freight division and also on investments in other countries. Apart from that they also have some sort of weird division between maintenance and rebuilding costs, the former DB AG needs to pay and the latter are often paid for by separate funds which gives a strong incentive not to perform maintenance.

[–] Anekdoteles@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not the privatisation per se. It is the privatisation accompanied by a lot of other circumstances bringing the worst of public and private businesses to the table. The main problem is that DB is a private company that is incentivised to let the infrastructure rot. The solution is actually pretty easy: split up the company, return infrastructure to public hand, and open up the operations to fair competition. Flixbus showed how competition absolutely decimates prices even in transport business.

[–] JoBo 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is more or less what they ended up doing in the UK after rail privatisation, taking the infrastructure back into public hands.

But you can't have anything like fair competition on train services. It's not like anyone can just plonk a train on the tracks and outcompete the other trains. They're awarded franchises, which typically have a monopoly over a particular type of service on those tracks. They can't be outcompeted, the only way they lose their franchise is if the govt is forced to step in to pick up the pieces (which has happened several times in the UK).

[–] Anekdoteles@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Flixbus showed how competition absolutely decimates prices even in transport business and Flixtrain did as well, even though it is heavily sabotaged by the entitled DB aristocrats.