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[–] angelsomething@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

And who should we elect? Stammer hasn’t given me the confidence that labour can solve this mess either. But I don’t disagree with the petion.

I feel the binary choice we have is kind of the problem.

[–] manualoverride@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don’t let prefect be the enemy of good. Right now Sunak is enriching himself and his friends with corrupt policies (HS2 Land sale, India trade agreement, net zero rollback, etc.) if Starmer did that Labour would be minced by the press. Better to have a (so far) non corrupt leader who will be held to account.

[–] I_Miss_Daniel@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

What did Ford do?

[–] snacks 5 points 1 year ago

you elect your local MP. focusing on the leader over the basic local vote only gets you so far. We have countless left wing MPs dying to get into power, some centre some left. Getting rid of MPs like Grant Fucking Shapps and Rees Fucking Mogg is unlikely in thier constituency, so you still have the idea they get another 5 years.

im not saying the leader isn’t important, its just not the mechanism or a misunderstanding of the voting mechanism which is making people not see the wood for the trees.

[–] geophysicist@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's a false comparison. One party has created the mess over a period of 13 years. The other party wants to change it. Questioning the competency of the party who wants to change it is fair, but comparing it to the party who created it is not, in my opinion

[–] Syldon 1 points 1 year ago

Hence why we need PR voting in the UK. Many cannot vote for what they want. The fact Tactical voting is an actual thing, is clear evidence the system is wrong.