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Russia plan to blow up Zaporizhzhia nuclear plant has been “drafted and approved”
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What NATO red lines were crossed. Remember these have to be stated. By nato. Not a nato member on their own. Much like russian ones are only legitamate when putin states them.
I mean Syria used chemical weapons which was Obama's red line. "Nothing" happened after that.
Obama isn't NATO, he's only a commander-in-chief of a large military that happens to also be a primary member of the NATO treaty.
This red line was still used by the US, Britain, France, etc as a justification to bomb Syria.
https://www.france24.com/en/20180414-syria-chemical-weapons-red-line-obama-macron-assad-russia-usa-france-idlib
But it was more of a "whatever" intervention, rather than the actual intervention that a red line implies.
and to go further since there did seem to be a goodly amount of consequences to the ignored red line. Much of this seems to be more about proof than anything else:
"Western powers opted for the path of diplomacy instead. Assad’s government was forced to join the international Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) and a US-Russian agreement to dismantle Syria’s chemical weapons capability was signed in Geneva on September 14, 2013.
In August 2014, the White House hailed the destruction of 581 tons of sarin and 19.8 tons of mustard gas under the OPCW’s supervision.
Nevertheless, in August 2016, a UN and OPCW commission known as the Joint Investigative Mechanism (JIM) claimed that Syrian military helicopters had dropped chlorine on at least two places in northwestern Idlib province – in Talmenes in 2014 and Sarmine in 2015. Then in October 2016, another JIM report concluded that the Syrian military had carried out a chemical weapon attack, likely using chlorine, in Qmenas, also in Idlib, in March 2015.
But it was not until the April 4 attack on Khan Cheikhoun that the West decided to take military action. At least 83 people died in the air raid on rebel-controlled territory in Idlib province, their symptoms suggesting they were victims of a chemical attack."
what does that have to do with the ukraine conflict or anything nato wise. Syria was killing their own folks. Putin does that all the time. So do many other dicktaters.
The relevance is that red lines, by anyone, have a history of being ignored with little consequence.
your own comment above to another show it was not ignored. syria only avoided bombings by an act of an elected body. Even still consequences did happen.