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UPDATE: RESULTS HAVE CLOSED! thank you for your participation—we've received over 1,500 responses which is quite a lot more than we expected. aggregated results and community creation decisions should hopefully come in due time.


hello folks!

with our backlog cleared and many new people around, now's a good time to do our first-ever Beehaw Community Survey--the first of what will likely be(e) many to come. this survey should take no more than 5 or 10 minutes to fill out, so we strongly encourage you to do so when you are able to. you can find it at the following link:

Beehaw Community Survey


the survey is comprised of seven optional demographic questions to help us assess the overall identity of our community and three questions relating to Beehaw and the Fediverse. it also asks you about 17 possible communities we are considering and whether you would actively participate in them if made.

the survey will be open for approximately a week. we'll definitely close it before July 1, so please get your responses in before that date. it'll also be locally pinned for at least the next three days or so, so please mind that. thanks!


results will also be aggregated and posted on here in a summary sometime thereafter. no ETA on that though.

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[–] thepaperpilot@beehaw.org 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I won't fight too hard against this, but I'd like to weigh in that I feel I'd fit more into a antiwork community than work reform. I legitimately believe we should abolish work (as opposed to labor), and work reform dilutes the cause.

But I understand the concerns with the baggage the term has and would sub to work reform if it was the one created - I can still sub to socialism and other leftist communities.

[–] BobQuasit@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago

I want to abolish work, not reform it. Reforms always end up getting rolled back by the plutocrats.

[–] Jitzilla@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What do you see at the difference between work and labor? To me they mean the same exact thing.

[–] thepaperpilot@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Labor is the production of goods and services, work is when you sell your labor for a wage or salary. If you've ever heard the phrase "the means of production", it's referring to the idea of who gets the product of the labor - the workers, or someone/something else (e.g. a company). It's what enabled capitalism to coerce and exploit workers, preventing them from laboring on what they want to. Leftist ideologies advocate to help resolve this by having the workers collectively own the fruits of their labor, such as within a co-operative where the workers all collectively own the organization. This comment elsewhere in the thread also clarifies the distinction.