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[–] maniacal_gaff@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I am an engineer who oversees a team. Most of them can't write more than a coherent sentence. Code and analyze data, sure, but put together a coherent paragraph? Not really.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

There's a weird ongoing thing in the programming world where about half of coders think code should be well-commented and the other half not only think that code shouldn't contain comments but also think that comments are an indicator of professional incompetence (aka a "code smell"). I've long noticed that the anti-commenting crowd are also the ones that can't write very well.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Almost like they don't want anyone to figure out how dogshit their code is.

[–] Gabu@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

People who dislike code documentation are often overoptimizers, from my experience.

[–] DarthBueller@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Optimizing like it’s the early 80s and every byte is precious? Or do you mean something else?

[–] Gabu@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Exactly. Using 10 obscure instructions to save 1 clock cycle.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Assuming it even does save it. The complier is going to do what it wants to do. Unless you really know your stuff any high level language is going to be a black box. One guy I worked with loved to do that but he would be able to prove that it did matter.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

In my experience it is job security.

[–] kicksystem@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

One way my code improves is by thinking what I need to comment. Then I refactor some and the comments become somewhat redundant.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think I would agree to work with someone who doesn't comment their code.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was basically driven out of my last job by someone who wouldn't agree to work with someone (me) who did comment their code. Like I said, it's a really weird dividing line in programming.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I am sorry that happened to you but it sounds like it was for the best. I work at a place where knowledge sharing is pushed for. Everyone shares what they know. It makes things so much easier even if we do "waste" time cross training.

My last job was me replacing the inhouse developer, I got it by demonstrating on the interview that I could reverse engineer his code. The versions he had put into production had all the comments stripped out and he had replaced every variable with random alphanumeric sequences about 8 characters long.

Shouldn't have known right there and then what kinda workplace I was dealing with.

[–] kicksystem@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I have had to tell software engineers time and time again that is is totally okay to make error strings beyond one sentence or one word. It almost seems to me that they never realized that strings can hold multiple sentences and and don't have relevant memory constraints.